"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Friend zone even with DJ methods!

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j8snx1

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well alrighty here's a situation that i managed to come across a few times, but never bothered to post about it.

so when i talk/flirt with girls, i always apply the C&F, Kino, good conversation skills, yadda yadda. However, with some of the girls I somehow manage to land in the "friends zone." How does that work anyway? I always thought that when you do the DJ methods well enough you'd be away from the friends zone.

I think my/the dj theory is that even if you apply the DJ methods, and you dont #close or take the girl(s) out on dates, youd find yourself in the friends zone. is that right?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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VIVAlasVEGASBaby

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Trying to create a set of guidelines to explain what girls will do is impossible. The sh1t they do will continue to baffle you and every other guy forever; so don't think that the ideas on this website are any sort of guarantee.

Rather than do all the kino and ****y and funny and all the other junk, just try asking the girl out. That's the quickest way to figure out if shes interested.

I'm probably blaspheming but don't expect yourself to be able to MAKE a girl interested. She's either interested in you or not; it's your job to not screw it up if she is. So yes, you are right. Playing by the book will not necessarily make a girl interested. Just be yourself, ask her out and keep a positive attitude.
 
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Just because you touch her, and act a little ****y and talk with her doesn't mean you'll score with the broad. These aren't steps. These are supposed to be a part of your personality. It's much more complicated than this, and I'm assuming you're relatively new to this whole thing. Just keep working on it. Approach girls, talk to girls, use them as your practice field.
 
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You can do all the techniques you want, if you dont give her solid evidence you are interested (number close, ask her out, etc.) she will put you in the friendzone.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I think everyone isnt getting it.

There isnt a method to get women. It's all about attitude.

I've been coming here for 2 years, since i was 15, and I failed with two women. Keep in mind they were 9+ with several admirors... im about an 8 in looks, and believe me, looks dont help you at all if you dont have the right attitude.

I didnt come here to brag though, I want to tell you my little experience.

A few months ago I started liking a girl... A girl I would never give a **** about. She was probably a 5 before i got to know her, but somehow, with time and by getting to know her, that 5 transformed into a 8-9! NO JOKE. I was the most superficial person in the world until i got to know her. HOW DID THIS GIRL TURNED SO HOT AFTER BEING NOTHING!?

the answer is:

Charisma. I'm talking about the charisma that gets you thousands of friends. She was always happy and had a reason to be. She was possitive, playful and had many friends! After I discovered the kind of life she had, I realised how important this was. And I started applying it.

I turned from a cute shy guy, into what I always dreamed. The Man.

You need inspiration though. I suggest you read posts from BBB (brazilian blues boy) He has several articles in the high school bible. He has the right mindset.

I never imagined I would be able to pursue what i wanted. Even my wildest dreams came true. The answer? Charisma.

All of the Techniques, Methods, Lines, Patterns, Mindsets is BS. You can only get there by experimenting yourself and trying.

I'm trying to help you man. I think BBB can help you with his posts. He's a great guy.

I just wanted to share a piece of my knowledge to you people. Persevere and be yourself, because the only way to succeed in life is becoming the man of your dreams. The man you want to be! :)

There's no need to be someone else, just you, but an improved version of you! Have fun reading :)

( I just would like to mention too, that being close to God I've learned so many things. Even if you don't believe in God, try being pure. It's your best weapon against ANYONE who would want to bring you down. Thanks :) )
 
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