"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Tiguere

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All of the sudden she tells me no more sex but still says the friendship means a lot and she wants us to stay close friends without the sex.

Maybe she wants me to be just another one of her girlfriends.
Maybe she wants to turn me as an orbiter.

Whatever her reason is ( btw she went overseas for vacation recently and has started acting weird . From what I know she made a good friend there and he calls her )

When I realized that sex was out the window I sent her a text basically saying I'm moving on and so should she. That I have no desire of keeping in contact with her and told her to take care. Her friendship is meaningless to me without the sex.

She replied " wow thanks". And that is it.

Any guys out there would have accepted the demotion and turn to just platonic friends?

What would you do if your fb or fwb suddenly decides that "no more sex"?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Btw we been fvcking since april.

And and and the reason she told me about no more sex is because " she is tired of walking without a direction". Wtf is that all about.
 

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NO, she does not want to be friends anymore. She wants you gone brother. Acting weird=she's either got another guy or spinning her own plates. Either way, she dumped you and is trying to redirect the blame/guilt to you by saying "wow thanks". You are asking what we would do? Just what you did....next her and go forward. There are more fish in the pond. Now take your pole and go fishin!
 

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Thanks string for response. But she wasn't a fvck buddy. She was a friend with benefit . She confided her inner issues with me . I'm sure she doesn't want me gone but I agree this girl most likely is already feeling her next c0ck.
 

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You fuvked up. YOU NEVER VERBALIZE ANYTHING WITH A WOMAN. You should have just walked away. She would have come back, after she was done banging her eurofag boyfriend. NEVER VERBALIZE. Just walk away, they love to be in the dark about things. Don't expect nothing from someone who you don't have commitments with. She can do whatever she wants. You are just sex and a shoulder to lean on. You don't make her pusvy tingle like you used to. You are old news. When you don't committ and emotionaly fuvk a woman, this is what happens, eventually she moves on.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=177446 Ya know, when I remembered this thread you made a couple days ago about your wife cheating and all that sh!t, how bad you felt and you still had feelings for her, I just had to come back here and tell you that you are either really screwed up or a fvcking troll. Which is it Tig?
 

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Wow...overreacting much?

x2 Falcons response

She said she doesn't want to have sex with you anymore and be friends. Your response should have been "that's cool" and then spin more plates.

If hanging out with your so-called "friend with benefits" was contingent on having sex then she wasn't your "friend" to begin with. Why you're getting your panties in a bunch over a FB cutting things off I can only chalk up to your ego not able to handle the fact that she blew you off and not the other way around. If you wanted something more you should have dated her.
 

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Falcon25 said:
You fuvked up. YOU NEVER VERBALIZE ANYTHING WITH A WOMAN. You should have just walked away. She would have come back, after she was done banging her eurofag boyfriend.
yep, exactly.

I had a fwb tell me "no more sex, I've moved on" last january after doing it for 4 months.

I said ok, fine by me. We were in bed 2 weeks later....

We still hookup about every other week and its been a year now.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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5string said:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=177446 Ya know, when I remembered this thread you made a couple days ago about your wife cheating and all that sh!t, how bad you felt and you still had feelings for her, I just had to come back here and tell you that you are either really screwed up or a fvcking troll. Which is it Tig?
In his defense that was a post he linked from another website, which was posted by a different guy.
 

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FutureSpartan said:
Wow...overreacting much?

x2 Falcons response

She said she doesn't want to have sex with you anymore and be friends. Your response should have been "that's cool" and then spin more plates.

If hanging out with your so-called "friend with benefits" was contingent on having sex then she wasn't your "friend" to begin with. Why you're getting your panties in a bunch over a FB cutting things off I can only chalk up to your ego not able to handle the fact that she blew you off and not the other way around. If you wanted something more you should have dated her.

how do i deal with my big inflated ego , i admit i do have an ego problem.
 

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Tiguere said:
how do i deal with my big inflated ego , i admit i do have an ego problem.

What he just told you (what you quoted)

just be cool with it and pretend it has no effect on you.

thats what i did and she came back for more. It was with that experience I learned not to believe what they say....just what they do.
 

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scorpio1138 said:
yep, exactly.

I had a fwb tell me "no more sex, I've moved on" last january after doing it for 4 months.

I said ok, fine by me. We were in bed 2 weeks later....

We still hookup about every other week and its been a year now.
Same happened with me, this is how to do it. Act like its absolutely no problem and don't make her feel bad about it. Then just continue escalating as usual when you meet in future, it will still happen.

Basically, ignore what she says and only pay attention to what she does.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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As somone who has pulled this line a few times.... I can tell you that she didn't find someone else or lose interest...she is basically giving you the ultimatum to commit or she IS moving on..it was a test to get you begging. The proper response would have been "ya ok cool" then gone about your business until she came crawling back wondering why you didn't give a ****.
 

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happened to me not long ago too. met some girl and we fuked for a few months then she said no more sex. i think she had other guys lined up anyway and got bored of me. i didnt give a fuk anyway. at the start she actually told me she only wants to be friends but i changed that to friends with benefits soon. another time she said no more sex but we did it again anyway... then another time she decided that was it. she also knew i was seeing another girl so maybe that pissed her off. we never spoke again after that and eventually i stopped seeing her on msn (she most likely blocked/deleted me) and i got over it really easy as i didnt really like her more than a fuk buddy.
 

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SunnyD said:
As somone who has pulled this line a few times.... I can tell you that she didn't find someone else or lose interest...she is basically giving you the ultimatum to commit or she IS moving on.
Not necessarily.

I've hinted at a commitment several times and she's not for it.

She knows I'm "safe" and would do well by her, but part of her wants that "feeling of fear" .....that feeling she gets when she's HIGHLY attracted to a guy. Problem is every guy she has had that with didn't last and they cheated on her. The "bad boy" type so to speak.

so typical.

I'm getting free poon often and she's a bit of a head-case so it's all good.
 

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update:

i decided to not listen to what she said and pay attention to what she does.

i know i originally said i would go nc on her but then i did some thinking and called her up and made small talk (basically letting her know that i was indifferent to her friendzoning me .
well she came to my house after her gym session (her gym is 2 blocks from my house)
we ordered chinese food. she had these spandex leggings . so i kinda let loose my hand and slapped her ass and she smiled.

she had her hands wet from washing it after dinner and asked me for a towel and i went to my room to get it and called her to come in for her towel.

after she got in i playfully locked the door behind her and picked her up and threw her in my bed.

i got on touch of her and started kissing her. she was refusing to go french at first but that soon changed.

i basically kissed her and grabbed her ass. fooled around a bit i didnt want to push for sex since she was already bugging me that she wanted to be home early so she can fix the mess in her room.

this is a girl that told me she was going to stop being sexual with me and went cold .

small update but it wont be long until i am smashing that a$$ once again.


tomorrow i will be fvcking my single mom plate(who has a boyfriend)
 

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Ha, same exact thing happened to me just in the last few weeks. This girl who was kinda my fb last semester, freshman year, dropped that same thing on me. I liked her though and wanted to make her my girlfriend, but she kept telling me she wasnt sure. We went on summer break, came back and the next thing I know, she tells me she wants to go back to just being friends, no fcking. I pretty much tell her i'm not into being just friends, especially since I have feelings for her. Long story short, I went by her Sunday night...kissed her and basically told her to have a good life. I want it all. I refuse to go back to just being friends, even though "my friendshp means a lot to her, I'm hurting her and she's never had a guy care or treat her how I did." Well, if that was the case...I wish she wouldve wanted me as much as I wanted her.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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