friend to girlfriend..

[organizedconfusion]

i usually end up with the girls i am "just friends" with either in a
short term relationship just to test the waters or
at the least 2nd base-even as "friends"-*wink wink*.

guys would be suprised how attracted and fond a chick becomes if you hang out with them alot -
but seem totally uninterested romaniticlly but extra flirty sexually.
my trick is to be really flirty but then just play it cool like she
was a "nobody" in terms of romantic interest.

yeah we're "friends" and i love to flirt with you sexually but your not the queen of the freakin' universe and certainly NOT "girlfriend material"...talk about a NEG!

i've had girls go completly bonkers because they are soo confused
by the third week.It's like they can't stand the uncertainty but
enjoy the process...



drives them freakin' nuts everytime :crackup:



this sounds horrid, but i found that if i could attack their
ego or vanity unconciously and just stab it til it bleeds, they usually become completly obsessed with trying to get me to
approve of them.either sexualy or romanticly.
Not saying that everyone should do this but this has worked
to my advantages tremendously :woo:

 

[DJ4Real]

Well, that'll work for girls that have more self esteem and confidence about themselves than the 'average' girl.

Although, depending how attracted an average girl is, she just may try to become "girlfriend material".

This would probably work on about 75-80% of women, i'd say.

 

[organizedconfusion]

when there is ALOT of sexual tension going on and you
don't jump on her a reel her in,she'll start to question why
and drive herself nuts. Look at cosmo mags they are just
as bad if not worse then guys are,they'll gossip and read
horoscopes,have 13 hr. converstations like " i wonder if he really likes me " etc.


how effective was this for me personaly?
i laid my ex doing this for two weeks before i slept with her
and i didn't even ask her out until a few weeks later...
and when i did she almost exploded- she was all like, GOD
what took soo long?! i was about to ask YOU out!
carefull on what you might be giving up on though..
she was one of the best lays in my life.

:crackup:

 

[jhs]

i've found its best to be friends with as many girls as possible and flirt on all of them... you'll find yourself in many situations like this at the same time.. and not even aware of it. there will be 5 girls that think they're on the virge of getting your interest and all you have to do is pick. the thing to remember tho, charm only goes so far. if you're trying to keep the girl, getting the girl is only half the battle..

 

[Jaun_Don]

I noticed last night that a good friend's girl was having the best time with me last night, we were all drunk and playful and she always wanted me to hold her hand when we were moving through crowds and she was always did this nudging thing she does...I know she likes me but she is a No GO zone and I enjoy her friendship a lot...we are quite close actually.


I have also noticed lately that she calls me at home a lot more and has been giving me .those looks ...basically she is sick of her man and they are arguing and fighting and he is a bit of a sook to be honest...but like I said she is a complete No GO zone ...I'm not an ******* and I wouldn't kill a friendship over *****

 

[organizedconfusion]

Originally posted by Jaun_Don
I noticed last night that a good friend's girl was having the best time with me last night, we were all drunk and playful and she always wanted me to hold her hand when we were moving through crowds and she was always did this nudging thing she does...I know she likes me but she is a No GO zone and I enjoy her friendship a lot...we are quite close actually.


I have also noticed lately that she calls me at home a lot more and has been giving me .those looks ...basically she is sick of her man and they are arguing and fighting and he is a bit of a sook to be honest...but like I said she is a complete No GO zone ...I'm not an ******* and I wouldn't kill a friendship over *****

...and those "LOOKS" and the VIBE she gives off
what book did you learn how to read those cues from?





NONE, i bet your instincts are right on the money on other
cues as well...i noticed that guys that can read these cues
are usually the ones that are naturally good with woman-
seeing obvious signals that others may be completly oblivious to

awesome


and not making a move and being a gentlemen?
priceless-that definetly earned you some brownie points in her book!
this IS the point i was trying to make...ANY chick is capable of this
type of behavior-because she likes, you plain & simple,
single or not. Girls LOVE the whole friendship thing and are
way more likely to want to become more involved either
sexually/romanticly even more so then the guy,when HER feelings
are activated intensly.I don't want to get into the whole
"woman are emotional beings" topic , but it's true- you push those buttons and she's all yours.

you many not be an a$$hole and not kill a friendship over p**sy
but i bet we both know what that girl wants..
either that or she just really wants to go shopping with you
:crackup:

 

[organizedconfusion]

Originally posted by jhs
i've found its best to be friends with as many girls as possible and flirt on all of them... you'll find yourself in many situations like this at the same time.. and not even aware of it. there will be 5 girls that think they're on the virge of getting your interest and all you have to do is pick. the thing to remember tho, charm only goes so far. if you're trying to keep the girl, getting the girl is only half the battle..

EXACTLY,
i think that some guys may have the false impression that
they need to approach a kazillion girls in order to gain
experiance & confidence.

When in actuality just being friends with alot
of girls,being playfull and flirty-it creates those types of
habits..until it's natural and you are just like that-
with everyone.

i have been doing this since GRADESCHOOL,
some lil boys play sports or played on the monkey bars & swing sets..i was lil boy that pulled the lil girls hair just to get them to
chase me -recess duties told me teasing girls and acting like that isn't nice and i need to stop immeditatly...





i am SOOOO glad i didn't listen

 

[jhs]

a tip to remember... this is exactly what girls do to guys. except they dont have to approach them. they meet a whole lot of guys and keep them on the virge of something until they know for sure they're not interested. not interested usually happens when someone with more game steps in. the key is to be such a desireable friend to a girl that they KNOW every other girl you talk to has to feel the same way about you and that you're going to like one more than the other. girls love defeating other girls and will go nuts with the competition .. for friendship! the difference between a DJ and a AFC in this situation is that the DJ truley enjoys hanging out with the female friends as much as they enjoy hanging out with him. A girl knows an AFC will dedicate his attention to the girl hes interested in & knows a DJ will survey what his surroundings have to offer.

its true that this is a thin line, but as long as you dont give your heart to every girl that makes you happy, you should be pretty safe. a DJ who can converse with girls in the same flow they do with their bros has got an advantage over most of the DJs themselves!

I've got a question for you guys who do this though.. do you ever find that there are guys that seriously *hate* you because you have girls orbiting you? i have one 'situation' right now if thats what you want to call it... i met a "5" .. she was older, close to 40 i believe. anyways, a friend of a friend had started seeing her (i didn't know at the time) so naturally i disregarded him. well he spies us having coffee and gets all delusional and ends it with this girl. the girl tells me the guy left her cause he thought she was hooking up with me. i probably could of had things here, but to be honest -- it wasn't worth my time. so now this guy is basically trying to hit up every girl that has any relation with me and they're turning around telling me hes a dumbass. this is all dandy and stuff but theres more than one guy like this!

all because i can pull off being friends with a girl without being AFC and they can't. i dont necessarily feel threatened by these guys, but its annoying to have to tell someone you're "not like that" etc etc. i dont tend to hit the locals much & this type of stuff rarely happens outside of the den. its so strange, if you're friends with girls, you're lame. however, if girls are friends with you, you're every guys envy.

 

[Boner da Stoner]

jhs, such simple words such deep ideas

It is true that girls compete for attention. When you are friends with a girl and part of the network things start to breakdown. Your friends start to talk about *****s and sluts and backstabbers. They start to use their sap stories and try to reel you in by telling you how bad their lives were before you. If you keep going girls in the group will begin to do horrible things, horrible horrible things. I am god damn, none of this was supposed to happen.

What have I done?

 

[organizedconfusion]

Originally posted by jhs

a DJ who can converse with girls in the same flow they do with their bros has got an advantage over most of the DJs themselves! :cheer:


I've got a question for you guys who do this though.. do you ever find that there are guys that seriously *hate* you because you have girls orbiting you? i have one 'situation' right now if thats what you want to call it... i met a "5" .. she was older, close to 40 i believe. anyways, a friend of a friend had started seeing her (i didn't know at the time) so naturally i disregarded him. well he spies us having coffee and gets all delusional and ends it with this girl. the girl tells me the guy left her cause he thought she was hooking up with me. i probably could of had things here, but to be honest -- it wasn't worth my time. so now this guy is basically trying to hit up every girl that has any relation with me and they're turning around telling me hes a dumbass. this is all dandy and stuff but theres more than one guy like this!

all because i can pull off being friends with a girl without being AFC and they can't. i dont necessarily feel threatened by these guys...

it's funny how more clustered and frustrated they get ,pulling their
hair out by the roots trying to "figure out" what "exactly" am i doing...maybe if they just relax a lil :crackup:

 

[jhs]

this may be hard to digest, but when girls ***** to me i simply tell them to shut up, they're not going to do anything about it right now and id rather talk to them about something else. they end up laughing and telling me im the only person they can't ***** to. you have to be friends, and it has to be deep, but you can never EVER EVER let it be obvious how deep it is. for example, each girl you are friends with will have a different set of inside jokes to give you 'looks' with. then you will look at her in the same way when theres no joke...she will wonder what you're thinking. but you know you've f'd up when the girl will disregard your interests to ***** to you about whats going on in life. girls do nothing but ***** except when they're having fun. be a guy they can only have fun with and you will (for the most part) stay out of the battlegrounds. things shouldn't start to go down until you've hooked up with more than one girl in a group OR you have switched your focus to another girl right before you hooked up.

 

[Boner da Stoner]

god damn man, like a fellow man of the hour

You sure can pull a few reminders out of my hat...

so simple

I think thats a special thing with the girls, you can notice it even in the fresh ones... They say a joke and they leave a little bit hangin off the end for you to bite, they have you in their grasp, but you both know theres tension between you. Then they give you that look.

 

[MightyMate]

I think beeing friend is a loos of time. You have to get the chick asap.

 

[organizedconfusion]

glad it works for you

 

[Skydiver43127]

guys would be suprised how attracted and fond a chick becomes if you hang out with them alot -
but seem totally uninterested romaniticlly but extra flirty sexually.
my trick is to be really flirty but then just play it cool like she
was a "nobody" in terms of romantic interest.

I can vouch for that. Also try making out with them casually while watching a movie or something. It drives them crazy. The funny thing is I'm not even trying to bed them - I'm just practicing some light stuff on them and I like their company.

It's a matter of framing. All the gf/ONS/marriage frames have a whole bunch of absolutely useless protocols assigned to them, that may have made some sense 100 years ago.

The "friends" frame does not have rules and that makes it a very powerful one. Once you're in that frame you can do absolutely ANYTHING and if you're casual about it the girl will not mind.

I'm even considering moving all my PU activities under the "friends" frame. all the ONS, LTR, STR, ect. bull**** makes my head spin. I don't have time to organize that!

By the way, I completely dissagree with this:

this sounds horrid, but i found that if i could attack their
ego or vanity unconciously and just stab it til it bleeds, they usually become completly obsessed with trying to get me to
approve of them.either sexualy or romanticly.
Not saying that everyone should do this but this has worked
to my advantages tremendously

They go with this because they enjoy it and its harmless. They obsess over you because you demonstrate value. They don't have to repress their emotions around you. They have no fear that you'll become all weird and needy when given the slightest IOI, like all their other male friends.

So, keep doing what you're doing and feel good about it.

 

[legolas]

Originally posted by MightyMate
I think beeing friend is a loos of time. You have to get the chick asap.

That puts too much pressure on you and her if you restrict time and try to do it asap. I've known cases where pressure was the only thing that broke it off.