"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Friend talking/appologizing after 3 months of ice

ebey11

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Well I had to throw in the might consider being friends part because I sort of said I had forgiven her in the initial msn convo. I felt I had to show that I really hadn't forgiven her yet in some way, and that way was the only way that made the only sense to me. If you have a better suggestion for showing I haven't forgiven her please do tell.

But to answer your #4, I haven't forgiven her because she doesn't deserve it yet. She hasn't done anything to make it up or show she's changed, until then, I dont give a **** about her. And consequently, until she does show she's changed and might be worthy of my time I won't initiate contact with her because she's not worth it. Of course doing all of this is also beneficial since she'll see I'm not a push-over and am also harder to obtain therefore creating attraction. Really a win win situation.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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we all start somewhere dont we? :)
 

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sexy_kuta said:
no. YOU sent her that message, TElling her to take YOu out for dinner, and "consider being friends" after she takes u out for dinner? whoa apply ur breaks dude.. "make sure its somewhere classy" u dont say that to the girl.. its just a big no.

acting a challenge is making HEr work for U. she came back to u right? shes the one contacted U right? so let her chase u :)

she will phone you. and if she wants to see u again she will ask u out for dinner, thats all, and dont always be there for her..

50/50 rule, only accept half her invites..

now that i answered your question please answer mine..

why would you text a girl who fuked with u, flaked 4 times for HER BOYFRIEND .. after u cut her.. why would u text her? wat u forgive her that easily? might as well give her the key to ur heart! never let a girl slip that easily, DOESNT matter how good she suks or how big she can make them puppie eyes. DOnt let her slip that easiler. make her PUT The effort in you and if she doesnt then its clearly to see why the fuk shes around
Also, obviously you should be on your guard against this flake. But after that, if you FEEL like going after her, then just do it! Forget this arrogant "well she did this so never talk to her again" crap. All you have to remember is the golden rule: if you know she's a flake, and she flakes on you, it's your own fault for giving her another chance. If you're willing to accept that responsibility, I advise against being too proud to give her another chance. You only have your time to lose, if you're willing to take a risk, go for it.
 

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BTW in the meantime she responded with

"hahaha isn't there a mcdonald's near you?"

And I said

"Ya but that one doesn't have playplace, I said classy, that means top of the line with a ball pit and everything hahaha"

And she said

"hahahahaha I'm comin down friday, I'll call you then be sure to make it up to you while I'm down ;)"
 

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I'm still not sure what was wrong with my text message. She thought it was funny I guess even if you guys didn't. I mean you guys didn't think I actually wanted her to take me to some restaurant or some **** did you?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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ebey11 said:
BTW in the meantime she responded with

"hahaha isn't there a mcdonald's near you?"

And I said

"Ya but that one doesn't have playplace, I said classy, that means top of the line with a ball pit and everything hahaha"

And she said

"hahahahaha I'm comin down friday, I'll call you then be sure to make it up to you while I'm down ;)"
LOL, that's a good one with the ball pit.

Well, the thing about challenge and all that is that it's all based on context: the girl. Sometimes you know one girl will laugh while another will think something is stupid. Most people at first try to be a "challenge" whatever the context. Maybe your text was fine, but out of context, to our eyes, it sounds kinda dumb. Oh well

Good luck, if she doesn't call, call her.

Izza

PS I'm unsubscribing from this thread. If you have any questions, PM box baby.
 

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Alright thanx, I know what you mean. You really think I should call her if she doesn't call me though? That seems to kind of contradict everything else, no?
 

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ovbiously you didn't read the damn bible to good becuase I have a plathra if **** you are doing wrong.


lets start with text messaging. Calling is bad enough. The phone is used to set up dates. What emotional attachment does she have to you typing letters on her phone? at least with the phone she can her your voice.

You have no idea of what ****y and funny is, because you don't have true confidence yet. ****y and funny isn't something you have to think about.

you have oneitis... bad. lol, this went from "my best friend, I told her I didn't like her like that" to " YOu really think I should call her if she doesn't call me?"

P'wned

You are ***** whipped on a girl you haven't even ****ed yet.

if you want my advice, and Ik now you aren't going to take it because this is"different" (sarcasm).. leave her alone. NOthing good can come out of this (now at least) Because you are a chump (no offense).

You need to better yourself because you need to get on the same level as her. leave her for another 3 months, come back when you are more inclined to handle her right, because right now this is the same ole AFC love song
 

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backbreaker said:
ovbiously you didn't read the damn bible to good becuase I have a plathra if **** you are doing wrong.


lets start with text messaging. Calling is bad enough. The phone is used to set up dates. What emotional attachment does she have to you typing letters on her phone? at least with the phone she can her your voice.

You have no idea of what ****y and funny is, because you don't have true confidence yet. ****y and funny isn't something you have to think about.

you have oneitis... bad. lol, this went from "my best friend, I told her I didn't like her like that" to " YOu really think I should call her if she doesn't call me?"

P'wned

You are ***** whipped on a girl you haven't even ****ed yet.

if you want my advice, and Ik now you aren't going to take it because this is"different" (sarcasm).. leave her alone. NOthing good can come out of this (now at least) Because you are a chump (no offense).

You need to better yourself because you need to get on the same level as her. leave her for another 3 months, come back when you are more inclined to handle her right, because right now this is the same ole AFC love song
No offense but what the **** are you talking about? I said not to call her 1st. That was someone elses advice. I definitelly don't have one-itis. Nothing of what you said there made any sense. Nothing good can come from this because I sent someone I've known for 2 years a text message? What reality are you living in? I'm as far from being ***** whipped as can be. I think maybe your reading comprehension needs work cuz that seriously made 0 sense.
 

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What?

Who told you never to call first? In my humble experience, women will respond to that strategy by not responding at all! You should always call first!

True, this girl said she'd call you. But that is a mistake on your part. Try to never end up on the receiving end, because it's a lose-lose situation if she flakes, which happens a lot. It's lose lose if she doesn't call because you have to call and look a bit needy, besides the fact that you might catch her late in the weekend when she's already booked. You also lose if you don't call and she never calls you.

Women want to be swept off their feet by a man who doesn't need them. Properly understanding the opposing forces of directness and aloofness is the key to women's anti-slut chastity belt. You must navigate the waters between the timid Charybdis and the needy Scylla using intuition. No one can teach you this art. But I can tell you that you should always call her!

On guy bought a girl flowers on the first date to kiss her a$$. He got rejected. Another guy bought a girl flowers on the first date simply because he felt like it, and she thought he was exciting.

Of course you should call her, be direct, excite her, sweep her off her feet!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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