"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Friend acts like AFC, still gets girls

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Here's why...

He's got the lost little boy that needs a mother look going for him.

Chicks love that stupid **** because it appeals to their maternal instincts I guess.
 

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what do his looks have to do with this? You said he acts fake towards girls and you also say that he is afc? What are you saying here. this post makes no sense.
 

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Yes, he does that. He tells them crap they think they want to hear, and it works for him. tells them how he feels, etc.

edit -- I can see the resemblance to Brad Pitt's face.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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ummm, I've been viewing this board for a while and the things my friend does is called AFC here.
 

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He's not a bad looking guy and think flattery works for good-looking guys better than C&F and here's why:

- gets the girl more secure in being around him (comfortable)

- by flattering her, puts her more on his level (in her mind she never was on his level).

- makes her feel special by someone she finds attractive

By being C&F and good-looking it doesn't do any of the above for her - only makes her think he may be arrogant.
 

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quite being jealous and quite posting pics of your friends on the internet.
 

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If I've told you guys once, I've told you a million times...

1) Females DO care about looks.

AND

2) It's not treating a female good that scares her off...it's being needy and clingy.

You can be as sappy and sweet as you'd like with a female as long as you aren't needy and clingy and you won't chase a female off. Bottom line...if a woman or girl actually likes you in the first place you can be as AFC as you want to be minus the neediness and clinginess. For the life of me, why on earth you guys insist on chasing after women who don't really like you and waste your time plotting, scheming and trying to be someone you aren't just makes no logical sense at all. Guys go after the absolute worst biotches imaginable and then wonder why they get burned. It's no different than women and girls who go for the guys that treat them like crap.

If she likes you...it doesn't matter how AFC you are as long as you don't cling and act needy.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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^ Whats the fun in going for the 'easy' chicks? The chase for the ultimate b!tchy chick is half the fun for me.

But that's just me :D
 

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^ Whats the fun in going for the 'easy' chicks? The chase for the ultimate b!tchy chick is half the fun for me.
I agree. I like a challenge. No fun if the girl is too easy.


As for your mate....

He tells girls what they want to hear. They then fall for him. Hows that being an AFC?[
 

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I second what Wyldfire and belividere said.
 

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if im gonna work so hard to get a girl, its gonna be a girl i enjoy looking at. im sure i could've found a fugly girl to be with way back in like middle school afc days, but thats not how i want my life to work out. i want the best. im still gonna tell those *****es to go screw themselves though. i think everyone wants to find a girl who has the looks of the hot *****y girls, but the heart of their nicer, less fine girl friends.


anyway, on topic. maybe u're an afc, and u dont realize just how pimp your friend is? lol, probably not. dont bash his success, cheer for him.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Originally posted by Tomatoes
I agree. I like a challenge. No fun if the girl is too easy.


As for your mate....

He tells girls what they want to hear. They then fall for him. Hows that being an AFC?[
Some guys like a challenge, some dont. I am one of the ones that dont :D
 

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Originally posted by ghost28
ummm, I've been viewing this board for a while and the things my friend does is called AFC here.

No, man, that's not AFC behaviour. That's not Don Juanism either. It resembles Speed Seduction material and stuff. If you read some of the advice on Fastseduction, you'll find lots of stuff like that.

It works wonders with ladies in the Short Term matter, but it's almost unbearable to behave in a way that is not yours during a LTR.
 

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This thread should be stickyed. It is the best definition of AFC that I have seen on here.

AFC = average frustrated chump

Your friend is doing above average with girls, seems content, and well maybe according to you is a chump.

You on the other hand,

not doing as well as your friend, frustrated because of it, acting like a jealous chump and posting his pic on the net for a bunch of people that neither you or him know to judge.

You = AFC

Dont worry to much though. Follow the guidelines in the bible and get in the field. Drop the jealous behavior and wing with him. He may be able to teach you more than you are willing to learn.
 

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I think what this guy has are his looks. They aren't necessarily good looks, but he kind of looks like a bad-ass. Those thick eyebrows, the beady eyes, and that goatee. Even though he acts AFC, he still has the look that leaves girls feeling unsure about him. He's a mystery.

BTW, Never EVER get jealous of your friends. It will destroy the friendship and your confidence. Relax. You'll get yours.
 

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Yeah, doesn't seem like an AFC to me. Just from the pic you posted... he looks confident and also photogenic. So the fact that he's "fake" with woman doesn't surprise me. He knows how to play the game man.

Learn from him.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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