"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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Friday FR + Q about strikes?

faiNt`

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I went to a party on Friday. From the moment I arrived I was in "state." Funniest kid there all night combined with dancing like a fool .. I cared about nothing. For everyone wondering how to not be nervous talking to girls: dance like a r-tard until you don't care anymore :rock:

We'll call her F. I'm gaming F all night to the point where I didn't have to think about what to do next. It was so natural. I overhear she has to leave, so I go upstairs. After saying her farewells, she walks out and the party host (girl, we'll call her H) says she's walking her to her car.

I'm like "cmon H I gotta do some talkin' here give me a sec k?" She doesn't budge. I realize I'm going to get number blocked if I don't just do it, so I do it. I said something along the lines of "anyway you're not leaving so .." (looking at F) "give me your number" (sly smile haha)

Got the digits, hugged, she left.

Saturday I was hanging with some people and we were going to something at midnight. I texted her and it went something like this ...

Me: hey girl midnight blah blah tonight hit me up
Her: hahaha who is this
Me: faint
Her: ffaaaaaaiinnnnnntttt :) i thought so .. i have plans for tonight :(
Me: alright have fun .. ill just take someone else ;)
Her: good luck finding someone as awesome as me ;)
Me: haha i guess you're kinda alright ;)
Her: you know im awesommmmmmmeeee
Me: that's pushing it a little bit .. but you did earn some points last night for X and Y
Her: glad you liked it . .next time ill have you show you some more dance moves
Me: maybe if you're lucky ill show you some moves of my own
Her: (obviously didn't understand my joke) oh god. i might die if i dont get to see them

Does her being busy count as a strike? Personally I think that, if she has a medium to high IL, she won't be busy next time I ask her, agreed? I've heard 2 strikes and 3 strikes .. what's the difference/better/reasons?

I also feel like it was a legitimate reason, but then again if her IL was through the roof .. wouldn't she have just came? She can drive after all.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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faiNt` said:
I went to a party on Friday. From the moment I arrived I was in "state." Funniest kid there all night combined with dancing like a fool .. I cared about nothing. For everyone wondering how to not be nervous talking to girls: dance like a r-tard until you don't care anymore :rock:

We'll call her F. I'm gaming F all night to the point where I didn't have to think about what to do next. It was so natural. I overhear she has to leave, so I go upstairs. After saying her farewells, she walks out and the party host (girl, we'll call her H) says she's walking her to her car.

I'm like "cmon H I gotta do some talkin' here give me a sec k?" She doesn't budge. I realize I'm going to get number blocked if I don't just do it, so I do it. I said something along the lines of "anyway you're not leaving so .." (looking at F) "give me your number" (sly smile haha)

Got the digits, hugged, she left.

Saturday I was hanging with some people and we were going to something at midnight. I texted her and it went something like this ...

Me: hey girl midnight blah blah tonight hit me up
Her: hahaha who is this
Me: faint
Her: ffaaaaaaiinnnnnntttt :) i thought so .. i have plans for tonight :(Im not surprised she said this. Why the hell would you ask her to hang out at midnight lol!? Of course she has plans man; she was probably already with some people and was probably getting ready to go home soon! Idk where you're from but where im from people dont usually stay out till 2-3am on an average weekend night.
Me: alright have fun .. ill just take someone else ;)
Her: good luck finding someone as awesome as me ;)
Me: haha i guess you're kinda alright ;)
Her: you know im awesommmmmmmeeee
Me: that's pushing it a little bit .. but you did earn some points last night for X and Y
Her: glad you liked it . .next time ill have you show you some more dance moves
Me: maybe if you're lucky ill show you some moves of my own
Her: (obviously didn't understand my joke) oh god. i might die if i dont get to see them

Does her being busy count as a strike?idk i mean some people would, but I personally wouldnt count it as a strike (and im only saying that if I WAS IN YOUR SHOES. In my neighborhood, if I asked a girl to chill at midnight (idk why the heck i would do that), I wouldnt count it as a strike cuz theres a very very good chance she has to be home)...i mean it would be a different story if it was like 8 or 9 pm rather than 12 midnight (if I asked her to hang out at that time, then I would def give her a strike). Idk I mean if you come from a place where people stay out very late and you know that she constantly stays out very late (like after 12), then I would count it as a strike. Personally I think that, if she has a medium to high IL, she won't be busy next time I ask her, agreed? I've heard 2 strikes and 3 strikes .. what's the difference/better/reasons?I personally use the two strike rule. First time i'll say "ehh ya know what i'll give it to her maybe she does have a legitimate excuse idk". But two times in a row? I dont think so.

I also feel like it was a legitimate reason, but then again if her IL was through the roof .. wouldn't she have just came? Like I said before, depends on the situation. If your in the second situation i described, where people stay out after 12 and hang out with people for the first time at midnight, then I would probably say she would've come if her IL was through the roofShe can drive after all.
I know what I wrote is confusing, but either way, if you're ever concerned about her IL level, there are ALWAYS ways to raise it. From the convo you posted it seems like you have some decent game so im sure you know how to get her more interested.
 

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Stick in there, she digs you, don't next her yet.

I'd say call her in 2-3 days and ask her out on an action date
 

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I won't count it then due to people around here not normally hanging out that late. I just figured it'd be cool if she came.

I told her we're doing blah blah next weekend and she should get all pretty for me and then we'd go have fun.

I feel like her IL is pretty high, mainly because she dropped something along the lines of "see .. look how much we have in common" or something like that. I feel like she's trying pretty hard. One problem: she doesn't back this with a sexual tone.

She actually asked me at the party on Friday (while laughing) "why are you so sexual?" Because I'm solid in that portion of the game, I just gave her the sly smile and kept gaming.

I'm feeling a little off that she isn't reciprocating the sexual comments or whatever you call it. I'm going to go off on a limb here and say it HAS to have something to do with her going to an all girls school. Still she seems majorly pumped to hang out and is telling me how much fun it's going to be and that I should get excited.

I love thinking that I know it all and then a situation arises where I have absolutely no clue what to do :rolleyes: It's humbling really.
 

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^Dont overanalyze so much. Always ASSUME attraction. You gotta stop worrying and thinking over if she likes you back or why she isnt being sexual back. Just know in your head that she wants you and your all good man.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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