"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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French chick giving me mixed signals

gruby

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I've known this French chick for a few months. At first i wasn't interested but each time i see her she becomes more and more cut. Last time my friends (who are also her friends) went dancing. Me and her danced a lot together - i was getting some vibe but definatly not too much Kino was returned on her part -- though her eyes definatly showed the attraction.

Anyway i texted her the other day. Her evening was quiet. So I told her to meet me at this cool place in an hour to which i got no response (my friend works ther so i went). Yet 2 hours later she text me that she'll be right there. Too bad i left 15 minuts ago. Anyway we promised each other we'll meet some other time.

Next day (yesterday) she text me to go to a Karoke Place (strange, i know but i think i'll drink, she'll sing). I was late by 30 min, and she texted me that it was too crowded and she's heading to other part of the town. Where i ask. Then no response for 30 min.

It's freezing, so i say hell with it and start heading home. Finaly she text me that she still haven't found good place to hang out and will text me when she finds it. (WTF i'm thinking, i always though it's the company not the place).

Anyway i respond that i don't have time for this and we can try some other day.

All the sudden she wants to meet up right away and ask me if i found anything cool. I get annoyed but this insistence on space rather then company (the chick is 30yo not a high school student after all). So i tell her that there are great placece everywhere and that it's a crappy night. I go home.

So i know straight off the bat that she's not REALLY into me that much, but probably enough to sleep with me. What are your thoughts?
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

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Nikos75

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Take charge of the situation.

Next time you contact her tell her that you'll be going to a cool place and she definitely has to join you.
I would recommend a stand-up comedy bar.
Sharing a laugh is the easiest way to get her.
 

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You find French "chicks" in France. They rarely speak any English. Most are short, plain looking, and can tie scarves in a thousand different and unusual ways. Oh yeah, they also wear sensible shoes.
 

gruby

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nikos, her english is pretty bad and mine isn't taht much better -- your idea would be a diseaster
 

DJDamage

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Nikos75 said:
Take charge of the situation.

Next time you contact her tell her that you'll be going to a cool place and she definitely has to join you.
Also stop it with the Bvllsh1t texting game. If you can't hold a conversation with her on the phone or in person, gauge her interest and seduce her like that, what makes you think you can do so because of the location?! You might as well text her: "meet me at my bed, be naked, ok?"
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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DJDamage said:
Also stop it with the Bvllsh1t texting game. If you can't hold a conversation with her on the phone or in person, gauge her interest and seduce her like that, what makes you think you can do so because of the location?! You might as well text her: "meet me at my bed, be naked, ok?"
x 100.

I don't understand why guys fall for the txting crap. Women do it for this exact reason, they can control the conversation, avoid confrontation and pretend they never got your text until later.

Dates shouldn't be set up via txt message. It should be done via phone calls.
 
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