Frame Control

[Snow Plowman]

This is based off everything I've learned from different resources and what I've tested in the field based on what I've read.

To me this is one of the most important things I've ever learned and it took me a while to really understand frames and frame control.

A frame is your interpretation of reality. So for a hb10 one of her frames would be "Every guy wants me" and she will interpret it as every guy actually wanting her.

The strength of your frame is based on how much you actually believe in your frame. If someone has a stronger frame than you then you will lose your frame and take up there frame.

This is why a lot of guys get blown out by real hot girls because there going in with a weak frame and then when they lose the frame they get sucked into the girl's frame and take on there frame.

Notice if a girl who actually thinks "Every guy wants her" each guy will come up and be nice and very receptive, etc. That is because they got drawn into her frame. Imagine a guy who had a strong frame also and he interpreted the world as "The world is a fun place and I love messing around with women".

So the guy goes in just focusing on having fun and messing with the women, he doesn't care if she is hot or not he is having fun playing around. His belief is so strong that she realizes that he doesn't really want her he is just having fun.

He had that rock solid belief. An that is what a lot of guys need to have a strong frame.

You can usually tell who has the frame by seeing who is actually be more themselves and not changing the way they act. You mustn't give your power away, you must be comfortable with who you are.

When I go out I'm always thinking "I'm going to have as much fun as possible and I'm here to mess around with and confuse these girls". So everytime I go into a set I'm always trying to confuse them and play around with them for my own amusement. They sense it and start to take on my frame. So after awhile they'll kino me and pinch my ass as a way of playing with me.

Frame control is a very subtle thing but after awhile you get a sense of it.

 

[reset]

I like it. There's a lot of stuff here about how to fit into a girl's world, or frame as you put it, and I think it's backwards. As men we set the tone and decide what we're doing, and why. And the best thing to do is go out and have fun because it's what you want to do.

It makes going out more fun because you've taken the pressure off of yourself, just living in the moment and not really caring what happens.

Contrast this with some of my buddies, when before we go out just psyche themselves up so hard that they are going to lay game on chicks. They put all this pressure on themselves, and are usually too afraid to talk to girls anyway.

 

[lyamdb]

I don't believe that frames can be consciously controlled. As you said yourself, any person has his/her own frame. and when hanging with others, he'll either adopt their frame or draw them into his. and the only thing that determines which one actually happens is how strongly each one believes in his own frame. the stronger believer will draw others into his frame. but if someone doesn't have a strong frame he can't pretend to have one. the reason is that frames are 99% in our subconsious mind. if a guy has really the frame that the world is a fun place, he never consciously thinks about it. he just acts as if. and one more thing. I don't think its important what frame we have. the only important thing is to be self confident. for a confident guy, any frame is attractive. so although knowing about frames is good, one shouldn't be concerned with adopting a specific frame. rather, one must always practice to gain more confidence.

 

[Poonani Maker]

Yes, you can control the frame that you are the prize by the expert use of your words in an interaction with a woman, consciously. The frame is temporary. The underlying metaframe (which all the other little frames fit into) that "you are the prize that she is trying to win over" (quoted from Swinggcat) is what you must maintain with Any woman (not just the hot ones). Setting frames is so important. If you lose it, then you lose control of the woman, and thus your chance to get inside her pants.

 

[Bonez]

How about something easier than frames?

Just don't make her feel like you are a loser. Thats about as valuable as frames are, the rest is what matters.