"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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FR: WTF Happened To Me!?

TekPh0bia

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I feel a strong urge to write something....

Firstly:

Lately, I've been going to this one particular deli for coffee. When I first went, my eyes were immediately drawn to the girl behind the counter. She was short and gorgeous (HB-who-gives-a-fvck). I made an effort to talk slow and cool with her; I took a long time ordering my coffee...paying special attention to busting her balls -- "Don't burn my latte!"

Long story short, I went there today and ordered my drink and got a brownie. She rang it up and asked, "anything else?" I responded with, "Yes, I would also like your phone number." She replied, without hesitation, "I can do that..." It was almost like she was expecting me to ask her.

The funny thing is, when I walked in, I caught the tail-end of her conversation with another customer, "...I broke up with him." So, I knew she couldn't use the proverbial, "I have a boyfriend" line -- And I was prepared with a rebuttal.

It seems like a coffee date is the most mentioned date on this forum, but this is a unique situation in that she already works at a coffee shop, so that date would be boring....

Needless to say, that was a big confidence boost. The look on the other guys' faces in the deli was priceless. I got the unspoken "nice job" nod.

This new-found confidence didn't expire quickly. As a result, I felt a desire to capitalize on it...

Come 11PM, I hit up the club that I always go to. Normally, I just stand there and sip my Red Bull on rocks and go home after an hour. This time, however, I got my same drink, but made an effort to sustain eye contact. I don't usually smile, but this time I sported a "I'm interested in what you're talking about" smile.

I stood close to a two-set of girls and caught them looking at me a few times. Some drunk dude comes up to them and starts talking. They introduce eachother, and because I was standing nearby, one of the girls introduced herself to me as well. They tell him that they're lovers/married. Because he's drunk, he's falling for it big time. During a pause, I put my hand on one of the girls' lower back and whisper in her ear, "You know, I'm not falling for your lesbian/marriage story." All of a sudden, her eyes lit up. "Yea, you got us....we're best friends...but he [drunk dude] believes it." For some reason, this sparked their interest.

The alpha female pointed at the Cisco logo on my fleece jacket and exclaimed, "You work for Cisco?!" "Yes" I replied. (Perhaps this was peacocking in disguise. Is that a paradox?)

Alpha female started to tell me that her friend (beta female) is having a crappy day (BF problems) and wanted to get drunk. I'm not sure what happened, but beta female sidled up to me all of a sudden and started going on about her boyfriend and how he gets jealous when she talks to other guys. "Insecurity," I say. They cheered, "See! TekPhobia is smart!"

I'm fluff talking with beta female (one with BF problems) and suddenly, she puts her arms around me (she's taller than me) and says, "I have a present for you..." "Oh?" I say. "Are you in a relationship?" she asks. "No...are you proposing to me?" I ask. Then, she shoves my face in her boobs and shakes my head vigorously. I had no choice but to indulge in a little motorboating :rockon:

While alpha girl is dancing, I put my hand on her shoulder to tell her something, and she says, "Wow! Your hands are cold!" "Hey beta female, feel how cold his hands are!" They both grab each of my hands and put them in strategic hot-spots to cool themselves off. (I moved my hands to their stomachs since that would yield the most instant reaction.) For some reason, their n!pples got hard at that point :nono:

They got pretty tipsy after they ordered their 3rd drinks....I did manage to get both of their numbers; they asked me for mine first.

One thing I learned, if a chicks likes you, she LOVES rubbing her boobs against you. I noticed this several times, and normally I would pull away, but instead I savored it and purposely moved my arms.

KINO IS KEY!!!!!! I nonchalantly touched both of them. It just seemed natural to me for some reason. The way you do it makes them comfortable with you.

I'm not sure if the bartender was working for her tips or not, but she pulled the girls aside and told them how awesome of a guy I am. Irregardless, this was most welcomed social proofing. I have a sneaking suspicion she was BSing them, but oh well.

(It should be noted that I go to this club often and normally order drinks from that particular bartender. She's HOT...but I make an effort not to hit on her so as to not seem like every other drunk horny guy.

There was one night when she was sitting on the other side of the bar waiting for business to pick up. Some guy walked over and introduced himself and tried to spark attraction, but it obviously wasn't there, so he bailed. Later, I passed by her saying, "Can't blame him for trying, eh?" She giggled in agreement, and since then, I've been her VIP customer.)

Lessons learned:

-Kino is key. Even a simple touch on the shoulder while making a statement can have an impact. It breaks down pre-conceived social barriers.

-It seems to me, women are more subtle with their kino. There were multiple times when I paid attention to boob touchage. I mean, it was obvious it wasn't necessary, but they did it anyways. The response is to simply embrace it. When that happens, I like moving my arms for two reason: 1) What guy doesn't like boobs against their bodies!? 2) It's a two-fold response -- I notice it and let them know by stimulating their bodies.


-Make them laugh! Alpha chick had the hiccups and she was trying to hold her breath, but I kept interrupting her to say, "Hold your breath!" I then resorted to fright -- I scared her.

All in all, I dunno wtf happened to me, but this week has been ME. Lately I've just been saying whatever comes to my mind. I've made an effort to not analyze what I'm about to say, but instead say whatever and reply with quick-witted responses. Plus, recent posts have been inspiration.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Good stuff man. Well done!!! Keep it up =)
 

TekPh0bia

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Well, I called girl from deli just a few minutes ago. The conversation was quick (< 5 minutes) and funny. She was all giggly...

I said I was going to grab a game of mini golf tomorrow (Sunday) and would like her to join me. Apparently her family are having their Thanksgiving dinner Sunday because of other family's plans. Sounded legit.

But, she didn't offer an alternative day. So I suggested Monday and got "Maybe...."

She did ask if I was going to be at the deli on Monday, but I didn't give a direct answer. To which she replied, "well, we'll talk then...."

Perhaps I'm not out of the running yet...(?)
 
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