"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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FR: Went clubbing got a # from a 28 yr old and I'm 19

Popeyes

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Yea so basically I went clubbing the other day and after awhile I walked up to the top floor where I saw this HB 7 (face wasn't bad, but a little too skinny/not enough curves for me) smiling at me, so I approached her and started talking. I can't remember what I opened with, but I remember asking her where she was from, she told me, I told her. So then she asks me how old I am, and I say guess and she goes around 24? I say close I'm actually 23 (i actually am only 19), so then I ask her how old she is and she says 28, I think I then said she doesn't look 28 or something, not sure though. Anyways we were up on the floor playing trance and I asked her to show me some of her moves, but she said she wasn't really into dancing to this type of music, and I said yea me neither. So I asked her what she usually likes and she mentioned hip hop and r and b, so I go yea me too, they are playing that downstairs, and she says really? So I say yea and then I'm like lets go down there, so she agrees and she starts going down with me following her. So we get down there and I say ok show me your moves and she says hold on first because she has to go find her friends real quick, and kind of grabs my hand to say follow. So I'm following her around the club as she looks for her friends, which she can't find. So after a little search we end up on a little stage over the dance floor where she starts dancing or whatever, but I say no lets go to the floor. So we go to the floor and then I start grinding her from behind for awhile, then she turns around and we start grinding from the front for a bit. So then we end up by the bar where she was like she had to go find her friends again, so I say "ok let me get your number", she doesn't even hesitate and puts her # in my phone. Then she leans in and kisses me quickly on the lips once or twice and then leaves. A couple times throughout the night she squeezed my face going "oh you're so cute" with a big smile and everything, and grabbing my hand and squeezing/pulling when she was going some place plus with the # close and the kiss, I can tell her IL was high. So anyways I bump into her a little bit later and see her with her friends which I'm pretty sure were all guys, although as I was talking to one of the guys he mentioned something about looking for some girl.

So yea she lives about an 1hr away by subway, I live on my uni campus.. basically just wondering what I should do to get some action from this chick. I'm thinking of just calling her up and asking her to see a movie or something, initating kino and all that stuff, but in whose area? Any ideas/ tips in general.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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ryannath

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Yes, I have some tips. Don't lie about your age. Now, when she finds out your age and she knows that you LIED to her, she probably won't think too highly of you. You could have at least told her the truth, and if she didn't like it, it would have been her loss. I'd call her and see if she wanted to watch a movie at her place, or you could ask her to a cinema, either one.
 

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ryannath said:
Yes, I have some tips. Don't lie about your age. Now, when she finds out your age and she knows that you LIED to her, she probably won't think too highly of you. You could have at least told her the truth, and if she didn't like it, it would have been her loss. I'd call her and see if she wanted to watch a movie at her place, or you could ask her to a cinema, either one.
Well I don't plan on having a relationship with this chick... I see this as being very short term and I don't plan on telling her my actual age.
 

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this chick knows you're young and she likes it. just don't bring your age up in a convo, if she brings it up tell her 19 and say something along the lines of "I'll be you're toy boy". She wants to be dominate(leading you around, kissing you etc.) just play along. you'll get a lay, just she will be on top. Just call her up and invite her(or yourself over to hers) over to hang out(movie).

use lots of kino and make a move!

I've delt with this type of chick b4
 

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almost the exact same thing happened to me except im 23 and the girl was 29. u will most likely hit it. trust me. just dont lie anymore and come clean. if she says something like "oh, you're too young" or "your just a baby" just say "so?" and change subjects.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

madgame

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if she says something like "oh, you're too young" or "your just a baby"
She looked at me and said you'z a baby right

(this is your job:)

You tell her:

I'm 19 and live a crazy life
Plus I'll tell you what the 80's like
And I know what ladies like
Need a man that's polite, listens and takes advice
I could be all three, plus I can lay the pipe
Come with me come stay the night

(her reaction:)

She'll look at you laughin', like boy your game is tight!
 

TruthHurts

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ammmmmmmmmm..... original don juan lies!

ryannath said:
Yes, I have some tips. Don't lie about your age.

listen, if your looking for a relationship, then dont lie, because foundation is key, and cant start with a lie....

HOWEVER.... your 19..she is 28... by the time your 36 and in your prime (i.e. career, knowledge) she will be 45 going into potential menepause (vaginal dryness, atrophie (gets smaller, i.e. dont need it), mood swings etc)....

in other words... its okay to lie to hook up with her... so you did the right thing by saying 23, but maybe 24 1/2 would be better lol
 
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