"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Background: last night, outside the club, I kissed closed an hb7 who was visiting town, double Ds, looking really hot in a tight tube dress. Before her friend dragged her away, we exchanged phone numbers.

Today's text exchange:

ME: wat you doing today?
HB: bla bla
ME: bla bla
HB: we want to go get sushi [with her friend who she's visiting] then go to the beach, where is a good sushi place?
ME: [place X] on [such and such streets] if your not going for super fancy. Nobu in west ho if you r tryin to drop a couple hundos lol
HB: how do you spell your name so I can put it in my phone? [I do have a complicated, non-american name]
ME: [drak_ool]
HB: Did you want to take us to Nobu?
ME: lol do I look like a banker to you?

The convo went on for a little longer, then I did end up meeting up with her and her friend at the beach. Didn't get more than some make out sessions with the target, as I couldn't get a wing man to go with me and her friend was c0ckblocking.

The 2 interesting parts to me were how, one, she assumes I want to take her out to eat (with her friend!) even though we spent only a few minutes together at that point and made out a couple times outside a club. And two, when choosing between a decent prized restaurant and the most expansive sushi place in LA, she goes swinging for the fences.

How can a girl justify to herself asking a guy she barely knows to spend $200-300 on her when he hasn't even banged her yet?

crazy how many women out there have this hustler mentality...
 

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I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

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I doubt she really thought you'd take her to that place, but it was still a good sign that she asked you. It's just flirting from a girl with expensive tastes - neither is bad. You also handled it properly. If she kissed you then you can take her to dinner somewhere less expensive. Then, you might go to the expensive place for a drink and appetizer at the bar, and tell her you are not planning on proposing so there is a budget.
 

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Would you care or even bother to post about this if you had another 2 or 3 girls in your rotation? Get more options and these complaints become irrelevant.

drak_ool said:
Background: last night, outside the club, I kissed closed an hb7 who was visiting town, double Ds, looking really hot in a tight tube dress. Before her friend dragged her away, we exchanged phone numbers.

Today's text exchange:

ME: wat you doing today?
HB: bla bla
ME: bla bla
HB: we want to go get sushi [with her friend who she's visiting] then go to the beach, where is a good sushi place?
ME: [place X] on [such and such streets] if your not going for super fancy. Nobu in west ho if you r tryin to drop a couple hundos lol
HB: how do you spell your name so I can put it in my phone? [I do have a complicated, non-american name]
ME: [drak_ool]
HB: Did you want to take us to Nobu?
ME: lol do I look like a banker to you?

The convo went on for a little longer, then I did end up meeting up with her and her friend at the beach. Didn't get more than some make out sessions with the target, as I couldn't get a wing man to go with me and her friend was c0ckblocking.

The 2 interesting parts to me were how, one, she assumes I want to take her out to eat (with her friend!) even though we spent only a few minutes together at that point and made out a couple times outside a club. And two, when choosing between a decent prized restaurant and the most expansive sushi place in LA, she goes swinging for the fences.

How can a girl justify to herself asking a guy she barely knows to spend $200-300 on her when he hasn't even banged her yet?

crazy how many women out there have this hustler mentality...
 

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A woman's body is for sale, and she dolls/ offers it up to the highest bidder.

Dinner dates are only for women you've banged. Maybe she's a dinner wh0re. Don't feed her.

Why don't you take her walking in the park or for coffee? Take control. :yes:

Also, listen to what BigT said.

Case closed.
 

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Typical club skank trash mentality, you mean. A lot of girls from these scenes are living a quick-life, and carrying along people for the ride (ie, using them). You should not go in with a formal dating mindset. They'll probably just have their fun for a while, get what they want - then leave. They travel in packs, too.

It sounds like they're trying to use you already. They don't typically hold back, aren't afraid to use people, and are pretty forward. Don't think you are special, or anything. They already asked if you wanted to take THEM to a fine-dine restaurant after knowing you for only a few minutes. I can guarantee its not to "get to know you" - its so they can get a free meal, and probably a free ride. They wouldn't ask you to take both of them if the one was genuinely interested. Club skanks typically aren't. You'll find them asking for a lot of favors, probably messing with your head, having some fun with you (making out, possibly sex), and basically only coming around when they want something. ****-blocking isn't uncommon, since these are typically the fake, catty, competitive, crazy types.

I see no good coming from these two. Nor would I invest anything in them. Just have fun - as they are - and be ready to eject (or get ejected). The club scene is very come and go - as is the lifestyles of those who frequent them. Making out and fooling around - even having sex - is very common. It doesn't mean anything. Nor does exchanging numbers and asking you for favors. Most encounters last a few weeks to a few months at most.

This shouldn't be mistaken for a typical female mindset, though. Club skanks, bad girls, gold diggers, attention *****s, etc aren't to be classified as anything other than trash. Hot, good for sex trash, but trash nonetheless. There needs to be a strong separation between good women and garbage women, or else you'll start stereotyping, becoming bitter, hating women, etc.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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drak_ool said:
How can a girl justify to herself asking a guy she barely knows to spend $200-300 on her when he hasn't even banged her yet?
Because plenty of other guys would and do. So she asks you, "Hey I like you, I guess, do you want to spend some money on me and my friend like every other guy would? Tee. Hee."
 

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BigT said:
Would you care or even bother to post about this if you had another 2 or 3 girls in your rotation? Get more options and these complaints become irrelevant.
interesting take on my post BigT. My purpose was not rant, just to examplify a common problem with American women, especially those in SoCal. Compared to other "take me out" demands, this one stood out because out of two choices, she goes for the most extreme one. Not that I would have taken her and her friend to either place, just goes to show they will push that hustler mentality to the extreme. And unfortunately some guys fall for it...

As for your concerns for my rotation, I got laid last night after the club (booty call) and am working on several more prospects. However, no matter how many women I have fvcked or am currently fvcking, some of their behaviors will still bewilder me.
 

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Bad sign. Women asking for sh*t from you, especially that soon after getting to know them, see you as a wallet and not a man.

And never say "hundos" ;)
 

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You can't generalize from this one girl to 5+ million females in socal.

drak_ool said:
interesting take on my post BigT. My purpose was not rant, just to examplify a common problem with American women, especially those in SoCal. Compared to other "take me out" demands, this one stood out because out of two choices, she goes for the most extreme one. Not that I would have taken her and her friend to either place, just goes to show they will push that hustler mentality to the extreme. And unfortunately some guys fall for it...

As for your concerns for my rotation, I got laid last night after the club (booty call) and am working on several more prospects. However, no matter how many women I have fvcked or am currently fvcking, some of their behaviors will still bewilder me.
 

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BigT said:
You can't generalize from this one girl to 5+ million females in socal.
You can use one case study (this woman) as an example of a common phenomenon (women's entitlement mentality) that is pervasive in SoCal, especially in LA.

Now of course, if you would like to argue that women in SoCal don't have an extreme entitlement mentality, I'd love to hear (read) your points.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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you could use that generalization for the entire u.s. female population
 
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