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FR: Track meet, 3 approaches.

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I wasn't originally going to go to this track meet because I wasn't running, but my friend on the team persuaded me to go by telling me that there we were going to approach girls there. First few hours of the meet were boring and this one friend of my talked about how he wanted to approach a girl, but couldn't. We keep saying that this dude doesn't have the balls to spit game and then he finally approaches this girl named Freya. Blah, blah, blah, now that the friend proved he had the balls, he wanted to see me approach a girl. I kept siezing up, until they finally told me to approach this Masa girl and I did. Here's how that went:
As always, I can never remember the whole conversation, so I'm going to give an unorderly summary of the conversation.
- I say "Hey, Masa, how's it going?" she says "Good", I say "Good? What did you fail a test or something?", she says "What did you say?" and I repeated it to her(Can't remember exactly how). She then tells me why she's really NOT in all that great of a mood, and we talk from there. I remember her telling me she pole vaulted and when I asked her what she was going to do over the weekend she said "Nothing", so then I started talking about how me and my friends are going to see Spiderman on Saturday. I eventually asked her "On a scale of 1 to 10 how good do you think you are?" she said and I told her she couldn't have low confidence, and at that point I initiated kino. She left saying she had to leave to this guy pole vault, and that was the end.
Later on, I approach this girl named Orit
-I open saying "Hey, Orit, how's it going?" she says "Good" I say "Good? What did you fail a test or something?" she says "No, it's just that I'm tired". Eventually we start talking about Spiderman and Orit tells me she's into it, when I ask her if she's going to see it, she says she doesn't watch many movies. I eventually discover this chick hardly ever watches TV and doesn't have cable. We eventually talked about her event the "2 mile" and I told her that I could never do the 2 mile. Blah, blah, I ask her how good she think she is, she tells me she's not really good compared to the other girls and I initiate kino, and tell her that she should just focusing on improving herself, rather than worrying about the other girls. We eventually talk about band and she tells me she plays the Alto Sax, I tell her I play Sax to and she says "I know" then I say "How do you know? You been watchin' me?" and she says "No, your just in the squad infront of me in marching band" and I tell her how I never noticed that.
Third approach sucked, I basically talked to a chick from another school, and the convo was kind of boring. I couldn't use the "Good? What did you fail a test?" opener because she didn't respond "Good" to "Hey, how's it going?" but "Yeah".
 

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ElStud said:
I kept siezing up, until they finally told me to approach this Masa girl and I did. Here's how that went:

I say "Hey, Masa, how's it going?" she says "Good", I say "Good? What did you fail a test or something?", she says "What did you say?" and I repeated it to her(Can't remember exactly how). She then tells me why she's really NOT in all that great of a mood, and we talk from there. I remember her telling me she pole vaulted and when I asked her what she was going to do over the weekend she said "Nothing", so then I started talking about how me and my friends are going to see Spiderman on Saturday. I eventually asked her "On a scale of 1 to 10 how good do you think you are?" she said and I told her she couldn't have low confidence, and at that point I initiated kino. She left saying she had to leave to this guy pole vault, and that was the end.
If she told you she isnt in a great mood, just exit from there...
Dont talk much about yourself, ask things about her
Plus i think you initated kino a bit too fast and creeped her( i presume)..plus you are too fast..imagine..you've hardly knwn this girl..and within 15 min , you are asking her out for a movie....

slow down

Later on, I approach this girl named Orit
I open saying "Hey, Orit, how's it going?" she says "Good" I say "Good? What did you fail a test or something?" she says "No, it's just that I'm tired". Eventually we start talking about Spiderman and Orit tells me she's into it, when I ask her if she's going to see it, she says she doesn't watch many movies. I eventually discover this chick hardly ever watches TV and doesn't have cable. We eventually talked about her event the "2 mile" and I told her that I could never do the 2 mile. Blah, blah, I ask her how good she think she is, she tells me she's not really good compared to the other girls and I initiate kino, and tell her that she should just focusing on improving herself, rather than worrying about the other girls. We eventually talk about band and she tells me she plays the Alto Sax, I tell her I play Sax to and she says "I know" then I say "How do you know? You been watchin' me?" and she says "No, your just in the squad infront of me in marching band" and I tell her how I never noticed that.
You should have asked her.." how do you feel playing the sax"..."what do you like doing in your free time"..etc..lots a things..to find commonalities
instead of saying "i never noticed that"..say something like " no way..you're stalking me..you're following me"(say it with a smile)
plus the same thought on kino as above

Third approach sucked, I basically talked to a chick from another school, and the convo was kind of boring. I couldn't use the "Good? What did you fail a test?" opener because she didn't respond "Good" to "Hey, how's it going?" but "Yeah".
this is a common mistake i encountered too..its a result of "outcome dependence" ....incase it goes little out of topic , you can always stack a fresh opener .dont worry.....

btw , tell me how did u kino......
 

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nicenomore said:
If she told you she isnt in a great mood, just exit from there...
Dont talk much about yourself, ask things about her
Plus i think you initated kino a bit too fast and creeped her( i presume)..plus you are too fast..imagine..you've hardly knwn this girl..and within 15 min , you are asking her out for a movie....

slow down



You should have asked her.." how do you feel playing the sax"..."what do you like doing in your free time"..etc..lots a things..to find commonalities
instead of saying "i never noticed that"..say something like " no way..you're stalking me..you're following me"(say it with a smile)
plus the same thought on kino as above


this is a common mistake i encountered too..its a result of "outcome dependence" ....incase it goes little out of topic , you can always stack a fresh opener .dont worry.....

btw , tell me how did u kino......
She didn't seem very creeped to tell you the truth. And I did NOT ask her out for a movie, I told her me and my friends were going to see Spiderman 3 and she said that was cool, and she was going to go see it. I never even implied asking her out. Besides, why go with her, when I'm already going with my friends?

For kino I put my hands on her shoulder for a second or two then took it off. And second girl still talked to me after kino, so she wasn't creeped.

For the third one I could've said "Yeah? That's a creative answer".

But think about it, if I keep approaching girls like this and keep improving, by the time I'm in college, or maybe even my senior year, I'll be a PUA. Me and my friends are already planning to go to homecoming next year.
 

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Anyway, I'll make sure to use your advice if I see good looking girls while I'm out.
 

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ElStud said:
She didn't seem very creeped to tell you the truth. And I did NOT ask her out for a movie, I told her me and my friends were going to see Spiderman 3 and she said that was cool, and she was going to go see it. I never even implied asking her out. Besides, why go with her, when I'm already going with my friends?
then thats fine...i thought there might exist an indication

For kino I put my hands on her shoulder for a second or two then took it off. And second girl still talked to me after kino, so she wasn't creeped.
pay attention to body language...its good you did that

For the third one I could've said "Yeah? That's a creative answer".
ok..but progress ..dont just stick to her marks , or school
 

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superchill89 said:
lol, the chicks you approach always have the weirdest , funniest names. agnes? masa? orit? aahaha
And this has what to do with the topic? Name doesn't matter and if you think it does you're an ass. I approach girls because of how they look, not because of their names. Hell, even if she looks average I'll approach her, it's not like I'm attracted or anything. No one chooses the names of the girls they approach, the girls mothers and fathers do and you know what, if name really means that much to you, you have a problem. You're that type of guy who could be banging the hottest chick ever, but then you'd ditch her because she had a "weird" name. You've got some serious problems there bud.
 
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