Still no numbers today, mostly because I didn't close. But yeah. My first real approach was going up to this group of girls and saying "Hey, you guys look retarded" blah blah and ones just like "Well, we're eating". And I can't remember if I said this first or said how I knew them first, but at one point, I said "Well, the real reason I came up here was because I thought you guys were cute". Eventually I say how I know the Lexi girl and stuff and yeah. Eventually, I started talking about how I'm a social guy and how I did Jazz Band. Blah blah, then I started asking them if they could come to one of my shows and stuff near the end and yeah, I eventually closed. There was this one guy there that was trying to interrupt and ****block, but I think I handled him pretty well and maybe even got on good terms with him. Next set I talked to this Karlin girl and eventually Allie joined in, which is weird because she always seems like she hates my guts. Eventually lol they joke about being lesbians blah blah, but the overall set wasn't that great. Then later lol I talked to this Austin guy and eventually talked to this Danielle girl on my way to class. And those were pretty much my sets.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
FR: Today's progress.
- Thread starter ElStud
- Start date
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
SickAgain
Senior Don Juan
Somethings never change.
Too much reading for you? Get above a 5th grade education. And unless you have something positive say, I don't want to hear it. Especially Mr. HandyAndy, who gives tons of tips and advice, then makes a thread admiting he's scared to approach. I find it funny the 2 haters above have nothing good to say have 0 FR's or proof of success whatsover.
ARrocket
Master Don Juan
Nicely done, now you just gotta set up some dates or something 
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
do you guys record yourselves or just make all this stuff up? i can't remember what the hell i say to anyone. i just do what comes naturally. hasn't hurt me so far.
random pickups rarely work. maybe when you use actors and tape the stuff for dj videos. maybe when guys write their fiction on here, but random stuff usually scares off most people. it is best to find a situation where someone feels secure and relaxed.
random pickups rarely work. maybe when you use actors and tape the stuff for dj videos. maybe when guys write their fiction on here, but random stuff usually scares off most people. it is best to find a situation where someone feels secure and relaxed.
lol dude, shut up. So you can't remember what you say to anyone so no one else can right? Sure if you like to think that way. Random stuff scares most people? No, let's rephrase that, when YOU do random stuff it scares off most people, because YOU think it's random. It's all in your mindset. It is best to find a situation where someone feels secure and relaxed? Yeah, I can tell right now you're that kind of guy who if he sees the hottest girl on the street, he won't approach her. And had you actually read the FR, you would of seen that I opened a set with "random stuff" and it went just fine.aldaris said:
But yeah, that's what AVERAGE dudes do, they just wait for some random, decent looking girl to come up to them and give interest. Then you'll be in the relationship for a good 6 monthes, before the girl is finally tired of waiting for sex and escalates things with you. Well tell you what, seduction isn't for normal guys. Seduction is for guys who want to be able to select the woman they want and guys who want to be better than AVERAGE. Something tells me your an AFC aldaris, I don't know if it's just your mindset or the fact that you have no FR's.
Nice to hear some positivity around these boards. I don't know about dates just yet though, but today I'm mostly going to work on just socializing with girls and if she seems interested enough, I'll number close.ARrocket said:Nicely done, now you just gotta set up some dates or something
SickAgain
Senior Don Juan
I'm saying what I said because your field reports haven't changed since everyone gave you a hard time that last time around when they pretended to be you and wrote a field report. You're still doing the same gay stuff like dissing them to their face and failing to number close. All because you talked to some chicks about jazz band doesn't make it a field report.
But honestly, your game is terrible. You have to prize yourself and let the girls chase a little bit. Opening a set saying that girls are retarded makes you the retarded one.
As for me I don't write field reports because I don't like to brag. I'm not saying that I pull mad pvssy, but when I do there's no reason to write about it. Some people do it to document progress, which is cool but it's not for me.
But honestly, your game is terrible. You have to prize yourself and let the girls chase a little bit. Opening a set saying that girls are retarded makes you the retarded one.
As for me I don't write field reports because I don't like to brag. I'm not saying that I pull mad pvssy, but when I do there's no reason to write about it. Some people do it to document progress, which is cool but it's not for me.
You sir, are what we call a hater. Haven't changed? Yeah, because you haven't read any of em, such as the FR were I got my first 2 numbers. Same gay stuff? Yeah, you can call it whatever you want, but as you can see in the FR's it's working and if you say it isn't, when there's clear proof in the FR's it is, haha, your delusional and you should work on that. Terrible game? Oh, that's what you call it when girls are interested. The fact that you think game is all about words also makes me doubt you. For instance, there's this MM instructor named Cajun who used that very same opener on Keys to the VIP, does that make him retarded? Haha, if it does, then I guess retards get laid. But really, brag a little, post your amazing FR's. And I know my FR's aren't that great, but really I'm not trying to make them be. They are thus Field Reports, reports of me talking to girls in the field. But to say the stuff you said, that takes an ignorant person.SickAgain said:
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
SickAgain
Senior Don Juan
You shouldn't be so defensive. From your posts you reek of insecurity of low self-esteem by digging up old posts of your nay-sayers and demanding proof of their conquests. Why do you need other people to prove what they've done? There's no way you could ever tell it's the truth so what's it matter. I could write up a steamy tale of snow bunnies giving me head in a hot tub and you would eat that up for what reason?
You ever hear of something called constructive criticism? You gotta grow up and mature. Don't worry about what/who I've done. It shouldn't matter to you. If I want you to worry about what I'm about then I'll write an FR for people to openly critique and comment on it. Until then learn to relax.
You ever hear of something called constructive criticism? You gotta grow up and mature. Don't worry about what/who I've done. It shouldn't matter to you. If I want you to worry about what I'm about then I'll write an FR for people to openly critique and comment on it. Until then learn to relax.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah and blah. If you want to say something true or moreso useful, I'd be glad to listen to it, but lol I really think you should find something better to do than argue on the internet. Hard to believe a guy with your "success" has time for such things.