"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
the fact that you can't remember what you talked about shows that you're not taking either of these seriously.
the fact that you preface them with "nothing extraordinary" shows that you're not taking these seriously.
by seriously, i mean that you aren't attempting anything new, or pushing any boundaries, or working towards anything. I get the impression that these are all fluffy, happy, innocent conversations, regardless of whether or not you have your arm around them.
this forum isn't for happy, innocent conversations. it's for sweaty, hormone-driven quests to f***.
you're being a child in this entire forum. children play in sandboxes. adults play in bed. and on the kitchen table. and in bathrooms of bars.
i agree, this is High School Forum material.
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You just explained how you did the same thing to two girls, which was putting your arm around them. Omg you're such a pimp! You put your arm around 2 girls in 1 day!!
I'm seeing you doing the same thing again and again, and getting the same results again and again.
If you want to improve, you'll have to do something DIFFERENT. Try NEW things.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
If that was the extent of your kino, you fail.
These need to go somewhere. You state you want advice on how to improve. Well, you seem to be doing just fine conversing with girls you've already met.
What area do you want to improve yourself on?
And what is the goal of these approaches? If there's no goal, that's fine. We just don't want to hear all the time about your regular conversations with women.
Mate, I don't get it, if you like the girl you're approaching then why don't you ask her for her phone number to meet up sometime out of school? Why do you talk to her/the group and then leave without asking one of them out? I just don't get it.ElStud said:
actually, to be honest, I just give advice in that thread. I'll post a full FR, along with partial transcripts of the conversation, later today.
THAT is the goal of this forum. not posting 'FRs' that, in your own words, are "nothing extraordinary."
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Thanks that will be interesting to see.marinetti said:
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I'm sorry but haha, AOL chatroom? Go out there and talk to real women then talk to me. And "That is the goal of this forum!", you've been here for a month, have 100+ posts already and you feel you know the goal of this forum? Please.marinetti said:
smooth guy
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