FR: The games...just stop with the games

[Mr Wright]

Background: Met up with a girl for drinks midweek. I've definitely had enough first meet ups now to get to the point where I don't think about it, analyse it or think about my behaviour. It just goes well. Go to a bar, only have one drink and shoot the shït. I can tell she likes to play games though unfortunately for her I'm not gonna play.

Now it's Friday night, a few days later and I've had the afternoon off of work and had a drink or two and arranged to meet a different girl after all this. We go out, grab a few drinks etc etc. She's into me but nothing's going to happen that night and this other girl has started messaging me and I'm close to her house. So I discreetly arrange a meet up with Girl 1, whilst out with Girl 2, which was actually quite easy to achieve. I say goodbye to Girl 2 and I go to meet the other one at her house which was like a 20 minute walk away. I go in, meet her housemates and straight to her bedroom. She throws the usual "nothing's going to happen tonight" bullcrap but also invites me to stay the night. So there's not really much else to do other than make out and escalate on her and boy was I in for a long night. She would not put out, stubborn as a mule, she was really turned on too. I literally got naked and got her wet as hell but she would not take anything off. After about 45 minutes, I cut my losses and try to get a good nights sleep. Or so I thought, later I have no idea what time she wakes me up, so I try it again and this time her clothes come off easily. I finger her and she blows me but still wont let me fück her. So again, I roll over and go to sleep. And again later that night she wakes me up and rides the fück out of me until daybreak. I go back to sleep and slink out pretty early. I cancel on the plans we had for the week after because I didn't feel like it on...and this has just set her off for the last few days. Numerous missed calls. Random snapchats. Double messages. I spent the rest of the weekend in a pretty bad mood which didn't lift until this morning.

NB. This is the second time I've had a drinks with a girl and she's messaged me after 10pm a few days later and I've been close enough to her house to go over.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Well, that's what she gets for keeping you awake until Saturday dawn. Of course you're gonna be tired and irritable if you miss a night's sleep. I find I am particularly sensitive to sleep disruption and it takes days to recover and get back in to a rhythm.

Regards the games, I think it's only going to get worse before it gets better. We are probably approaching peak female entitlement soon, if we aren't already there. Understand it's just a power play, keeping you at arm's length as preliminary test - now she's done a 180 and obviously was just playing a game. I have little patience for these kinds of behaviours latterly. It's just a sign that they are weak females who are too easily influenced by what is expected, rather than following what they really want. We learn to screen heavily for the fruit loops the further we go along.

There's no real knowing what a women will be like at least until a few weeks or months in. Most are so heavily conditioned by what society expects - much more so than men, you will not see their true character straight away, if ever. You've done exactly the (W)right thing; hold your cards and make her play hers. She'll be a clinger this one, by the looks of it.

I went out with a girl late last year who I think was blatantly snorting coke during the date. At the end of the night I basically said, come back to mine and we'll carry on the party there. "I'm not that kind of girl", was her response. So what she's saying is she's the kind of girl to do hard drugs on dates, but not the kind to give in to her sexual desires. She wasn't bad looking, but not enough to be high and mighty about it. Bullet dodged.

Conversely, I have this (hotter) Polish bird I met in a facebook group, who openly tells me in front of others that she expects me to seduce her when we meet. I have a couple of others like this who it's very easy to flirt along with. These are the kinds of girls you have no drama with. Early screening is key - the sh!t test ideology will soon die out if the highest value men learn to decondition women away from them.

We live and learn.

 

[Bingo-Player]

basic push - pull stuff , its actually laughable when your in bed alone with a woman and she tells you "nothings going to happen" lmao yeh right and im the princess of china

im convinced there's a part of a woman's mind that is actually turned on by the idea of being "raped" ....I just don't understand otherwise why they enjoy teasing men so much sexually, ok its a minor power trip yes but it's ultimately unfulfilling for both parties involved

no I think deep down they want the male to physically overpower them and make them submit to there desires especially if they are attracted to him anyway , all the pushing and pulling in bed is just to see how far the male will actually go.

of course this would never be admitted and in the sober cold light of day , the male would be looking at a lengthy court case depending on the woman, but I definitely feel this theory is on the right track .......

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

basic push - pull stuff , its actually laughable when your in bed alone with a woman and she tells you "nothings going to happen" lmao yeh right and im the princess of china

im convinced there's a part of a woman's mind that is actually turned on by the idea of being "raped" ....I just don't understand otherwise why they enjoy teasing men so much sexually, ok its a minor power trip yes but it's ultimately unfulfilling for both parties involved

no I think deep down they want the male to physically overpower them and make them submit to there desires especially if they are attracted to him anyway , all the pushing and pulling in bed is just to see how far the male will actually go.

of course this would never be admitted and in the sober cold light of day , the male would be looking at a lengthy court case depending on the woman, but I definitely feel this theory is on the right track .......

Years ago, in my naive juvenile mind that had just found out about sex and rape etc etc. I assumed that rape was when some girl was attacked completely against her will in a dark alley or park.

What I didn't realise it also extends to a woman who has willing got in to bed with a man, willingly taken her clothes off, willingly tossed and/or sucked him off and allowed him to do the same, then changed her mind about the final chapter at the last minute.

I believe that men should accept responsibility for their actions, but then so should women - that being accepting responsibility for one's OWN welfare as far as possible. By getting naked in a bed with a man, unless she knows 100% that she wants to have sex, a woman is complicit in compromising her own 'safety'. But of course the emotive, feminist, emasculated 90% of society don't understand the logic behind that.

 

[CMNILS87]

The old "we're not having sex tonight" defense....

********: "we're having sex, but I'll play hard to get".

 

[Poon King]

If a woman is deeply frustrating you.. then you're not spinning enough plates.

The unwillingness a lot of men have to walk away from annoying, manipulative or otherwise toxic women is directly proportional to their lack of other options. Because when you have lots of options you don't tolerate bullsh!t. More importantly.. when you have a lot of options YOU MAKE THE RULES.. not her. She either submits to your wishes or she gets lost. There are other women in line waiting to suck and f*ck you.

In sexual relationships its the woman's job to be submissive and the men's job to lead and dominate. If this is not happening.. its either because the woman has low interest or the man is a faggot or both.

 

[Mr Wright]

im convinced there's a part of a woman's mind that is actually turned on by the idea of being "raped" ....I just don't understand otherwise why they enjoy teasing men so much sexually, ok its a minor power trip yes but it's ultimately unfulfilling for both parties involved

I've had a quite a few girls who just seem to really enjoy being completely physically dominated before essentially giving in. The most recently that girl in my last FR where I literally had to start tearing her clothes off before she submitted, which in the eyes of your average person would assume that's the start of something sinister. But in the room, in that context it was what she needed to happen for her to have sex. You have to be man enough to take it whilst never actually crossing any lines.

If a woman is deeply frustrating you.. then you're not spinning enough plates.

The unwillingness a lot of men have to walk away from annoying, manipulative or otherwise toxic women is directly proportional to their lack of other options. Because when you have lots of options you don't tolerate bullsh!t. More importantly.. when you have a lot of options YOU MAKE THE RULES.. not her. She either submits to your wishes or she gets lost. There are other women in line waiting to suck and f*ck you.

In sexual relationships its the woman's job to be submissive and the men's job to lead and dominate. If this is not happening.. its either because the woman has low interest or the man is a faggot or both.

I completely agree with this. There is an update, I told her to stop playing games or I'm out, she agreed and has been good as gold since. I also made it clear I'd be seeing other people(which she knew anyway and explicitly asked) and she seemed a bit upset but accepted it and said she wouldn't be. It'll be interesting to see how this one ends up because she knows I'll walk away.