FR: Tactical Defeat, Strategic Victory?

[Huffman]

OK Guys, everybody's complaining about lack of Field Reports, so here you go!
In this FR, I'm emphasizing what I did for Kino, because it's hard to find good threads on how to do it - and for once I'm kinda satisfied with how it went. The Kino part, at least!

I recently posted in "biggest come-on that was missed" about how I met 2 hot girls late night, both were into me, took one outside, she was giving me the signs but I didn't take her home because i was too stupid. I was pretty angry with myself!

Anyway, maybe I was lucky, or my game before the screwup had been so tight, the girl's hot friend writes on Facebook "awesome meeting you, i'd love to hang out again". I ask for number, text her lets grab drinks wednesday night. She says "can you do friday? so i dont have to work day after".


INTRO
So we meet in central earlier this evening, plan is Drinks + Pool + X. I thought it's looking really good... I mean she saw me almost hooking up with her friend, and now wants a date where she has time all night! Looks like a ONS! Yeah!

We hit it off, she refuses a hello-hug, fumbles with her bag so I can't hug her. WTF? OK don't sweat it I say, I'll start from zero and ramp it up gradually. We walk to pub. Convo starts awkward. Have bad feeling, but force myself to relax. I'm able to tease her on something and start up the kino machine. (traffic lights are truly a blessing!)

Light kino progresses, she warms up. We're at the pub, I picked one where the music is not too loud. Convo picks up. She actually does a good amount of the work, giving new topics. I ramp up the kino, feel up her hands talking about music instruments. She tries to read my palm. Have a good feeling now!

It's hot in the pub, we get a little tired. I say hey how about we play a game of pool. We walk quite a distance to pool place, by now kino is going at full speed. She doesn't know where we're going, I steer her around left and right, touching her back, sides, shoulders, arms. I now get first buying signals. Looking good! She tells me about her friend (with whom I almost hooked up), and how I should come to a concert where she'll be too.

We're at pool place. I'm average, but she's total newbie. After couple of shots I try to show her how to hold the stick. Bit of fumbling around, and I'm reaching around her, full body contact. She doesn't pull back... very good! We enjoy 3 games, I go with the flow and start using pretty much any excuse to touch her. We're now standing pretty close most of the time.

The place has a jukebox. We select some songs, I stand behind her, while selecting music with one hand I put the other around her and on the side of her belly. All the while talking about music, she doesn't do anything. That's a green light, add the other, we end up in a complete hug from behind. My hands start moving, by now I'm really feeling her up. In front of everyone, haha! She's taking her sweet time selecting music! Obviously so I can feel her up some more!


CLOSING TIME
I think we should go, says me, and we leave the place. It's midnight, she says she's gonna catch a cab. I say where do you live? "I live (here) but I'm going somewhere else". My head goes UH OH WTF!? But I haven't come this far to fall for sh!t tests, so as we're walking down the street I put my arm around her, she does the same! I say "where are you going again?", she says "to my boyfriend's place...". WTF!? We're walking around like newlyweds and she tells me about her BF? Again I believe I still have a chance because I can so easily touch her. I pull her even closer, and she starts stroking my side too.

She won't come with me but lets me feel her up? OK I think, then at least I'm gonna feel her up good! I do just that, and she says I can share her cab, because my place is on the way. We go in the cab. I put my arm around her. Start massaging her side. Her belly. Her thighs. It's pretty much foreplay! I start touching her boobs. No resistance. Shallow breathing. Stroke the inner thighs. Slowly go to where it's warm. Massage a bit, can't really feel where I am through her panties. I continue for a bit, getting more passionate. She is turned on! I go under the panties and SNAP she pushes my hand away, but kisses me in return. Short pause, then I take her head in my other hand, turn it almost forcefully and we kiss again! She's quite happy to give tongue! This is almost sex! OK I say where did you say you're going again? To her boyfriend, she says... sorry... man ****! I don't let up feeling her up, but doesn't lead anywhere. She tells me again how I must meet her friend (with whom I almost hooked up last time), and how I have to come to a concert, and how she will buy me drinks if I come, etc.


RESULT
Well, we're at my place and she's not coming. Goodbye kiss, but I get out alone.

1. Tactical Defeat: Got blueballed hard. WTF. Don't think I could have turned it around.
2. Strategical Victory: I think I actually did everything right! Took the hints, escalated when I had the chance. And I felt her up pretty good haha. Positive experience to boost my confidence! Plus she will hook me up with her friend.

I'm curious how this pans out. Don't really care if she actually has a boyfriend. I think she just made up an excuse, because she wants to hook me up with her friend.
Well ok, I'll get freaky with the friend, she's hot too. As a bonus, going out with pretty girls and have them buy me drinks will be awesome. Meanwhile I won't admit defeat just yet... she was just TOO turned on.

 

[Huffman]

As I'm writing this, I receive a text:
she apologizes for being so horny and hopes I have a good night. (lol)

I think I'm gonna reply tomorrow and say something like "me too, just cant keep my hands to myself". I want to keep it sexual, but at the same time not say it's ok (because blueballing me is never ok! ).

 

[ARrocket]

Good FR; these kinds of dates really are the best possible kind!

Obviously it went pretty well, and it's hard to really know what could have been changed without being there, but from what I see, you could have come stronger at the "closing time" part of your report.

When you said "time to go" or whatever, what happened? Sounds like you guys walked outside without any sort of plan, and she just decides to jump in a cab.

If it were my I'd probably have been formulating something while at the bar...you know, a specific movie you have at your place, your pet hamster, something like that. This isn't going to guarantee she comes over, but it gives you a shot. Also, it gives her less room to make a decision for herself. Give it a try next time and see how that works out for you.

As for this girl, it's kind of a strange situation, seeing as she has the friend and all...I don't really have any great advice for you in that regard...just play it by ear, trust your instincts.

And perhaps pray for a threesome

 

[Huffman]

Thanks for your input. I was going to invite her to "listen to some music", because we were talking alot about music earlier, but I probably should have done it straight away.

You're probably right that she might have decided while we were walking outside. Not sure if I could have changed the outcome, but I'll keep it in mind

 

[Mike32ct]

OK Guys, everybody's complaining about lack of Field Reports, so here you go!

Perfect. Glad to see one.

In this FR, I'm emphasizing what I did for Kino, because it's hard to find good threads on how to do it - and for once I'm kinda satisfied with how it went. The Kino part, at least!

I recently posted in "biggest come-on that was missed" about how I met 2 hot girls late night, both were into me, took one outside, she was giving me the signs but I didn't take her home because i was too stupid. I was pretty angry with myself!

Don't beat yourself up too much. We've all missed some great opportunities.

Anyway, maybe I was lucky, or my game before the screwup had been so tight, the girl's hot friend writes on Facebook "awesome meeting you, i'd love to hang out again". I ask for number, text her lets grab drinks wednesday night. She says "can you do friday? so i dont have to work day after".

This sounds good so far.

INTRO
So we meet in central earlier this evening, plan is Drinks + Pool + X. I thought it's looking really good... I mean she saw me almost hooking up with her friend, and now wants a date where she has time all night! Looks like a ONS! Yeah!

It's sounding good; but remember, there are no "sure things" in this game.

We hit it off, she refuses a hello-hug, fumbles with her bag so I can't hug her. WTF? OK don't sweat it I say, I'll start from zero and ramp it up gradually. We walk to pub. Convo starts awkward. Have bad feeling, but force myself to relax. I'm able to tease her on something and start up the kino machine. (traffic lights are truly a blessing!)

I'm glad you were not phased by her being initially distant.

Light kino progresses, she warms up. We're at the pub, I picked one where the music is not too loud. Convo picks up. She actually does a good amount of the work, giving new topics. I ramp up the kino, feel up her hands talking about music instruments. She tries to read my palm. Have a good feeling now!

It's hot in the pub, we get a little tired. I say hey how about we play a game of pool. We walk quite a distance to pool place, by now kino is going at full speed. She doesn't know where we're going, I steer her around left and right, touching her back, sides, shoulders, arms. I now get first buying signals. Looking good! She tells me about her friend (with whom I almost hooked up), and how I should come to a concert where she'll be too.

Buying signals are good.

We're at pool place. I'm average, but she's total newbie. After couple of shots I try to show her how to hold the stick. Bit of fumbling around, and I'm reaching around her, full body contact. She doesn't pull back... very good!

When they don't pull back, that's golden.

We enjoy 3 games, I go with the flow and start using pretty much any excuse to touch her. We're now standing pretty close most of the time.

The place has a jukebox. We select some songs, I stand behind her, while selecting music with one hand I put the other around her and on the side of her belly. All the while talking about music, she doesn't do anything. That's a green light, add the other, we end up in a complete hug from behind. My hands start moving, by now I'm really feeling her up. In front of everyone, ha! She's taking her sweet time selecting music! Obviously so I can feel her up some more!

That's ok, but don't grope too much if you want to pull later.

CLOSING TIME
I think we should go, says me, and we leave the place. It's midnight, she says she's gonna catch a cab. I say where do you live? "I live (here) but I'm going somewhere else". My head goes UH OH WTF!? But I haven't come this far to fall for sh!t tests, so as we're walking down the street I put my arm around her, she does the same! I say "where are you going again?", she says "to my boyfriend's place...". WTF!?

Ouch. Her IL is ok, but she doesn't sound like she's up for a ONS.

We're walking around like newlyweds and she tells me about her BF? Again I believe I still have a chance because I can so easily touch her. I pull her even closer, and she starts stroking my side too.

She won't come with me but lets me feel her up?

Yes. Some girls will touch and make out, but not necessarily be up for sex. She might be on her period, not into ONS', or maybe she really has a boyfriend and doesn't want to "cross the line" by f*cking you. Props to you for trying though.

OK I think, then at least I'm gonna feel her up good! I do just that, and she says I can share her cab, because my place is on the way. We go in the cab. I put my arm around her. Start massaging her side. Her belly. Her thighs. It's pretty much foreplay! I start touching her boobs. No resistance. Shallow breathing. Stroke the inner thighs. Slowly go to where it's warm. Massage a bit, can't really feel where I am through her panties. I continue for a bit, getting more passionate. She is turned on! I go under the panties and SNAP she pushes my hand away, but kisses me in return. Short pause, then I take her head in my other hand, turn it almost forcefully and we kiss again! She's quite happy to give tongue! This is almost sex!

Chicks still love foreplay and makeouts. You at least got some play dude.

OK I say where did you say you're going again? To her boyfriend, she says... sorry... man ****! I don't let up feeling her up, but doesn't lead anywhere. She tells me again how I must meet her friend (with whom I almost hooked up last time), and how I have to come to a concert, and how she will buy me drinks if I come, etc.

Heavy groping does NOT necessarily increase the chances of a pull. In my experience, too much groping actually decreases the chances of a pull. (It's counterintuitive. It's good leave her wanting more so she has more incentive to go to the extract location.) But it's clear she wasn't up for it that night, so I don't think the heavy groping did any harm. You got some play. That's all the matters.

RESULT
Well, we're at my place and she's not coming. Goodbye kiss, but I get out alone.

You parted on good terms and she still wants to hook you up with her friend.

1. Tactical Defeat: Got blueballed hard. WTF. Don't think I could have turned it around.

I don't think so either. You went as far as possible.

2. Strategical Victory: I think I actually did everything right! Took the hints, escalated when I had the chance. And I felt her up pretty good haha. Positive experience to boost my confidence! Plus she will hook me up with her friend.

Absolutely.

I'm curious how this pans out. Don't really care if she actually has a boyfriend. I think she just made up an excuse, because she wants to hook me up with her friend.

It's hard to say if she really has a bf.

Well ok, I'll get freaky with the friend, she's hot too. As a bonus, going out with pretty girls and have them buy me drinks will be awesome. Meanwhile I won't admit defeat just yet... she was just TOO turned on.

It was not a defeat.