"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
FR: Some sets I approached today.
- Thread starter ElStud
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Fred Da Head
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Numbers are overrated--at some point, guys here stopped trying to get dates with attractive women, and started a collecting numbers. The flake rate is so much higher with numbers-only closes than with, say, a date-and-number close or an immediate-date close (change of venue), it's not even funny! Ejecting and getting a number is barely better than just ejecting.
I agree with the paradigm shift idea, though. It is a numbers game, after all. (Sorry, bad pun.)
War Against Betaism
Master Don Juan
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
War Against Betaism
Master Don Juan
I didn't know black people could play guitar...are you sure you didn't copy this from someone else? not that it's very good or anythingElStud said:- ... Eventually Girl2 leaves and I start vibing with girl1. At one point I bring up guitar and she's like "Oh, you play guitar that's cool". And we start vibing off of that. ...