"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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FR: Some sets I approached today.

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So at lunch today, I approached a few sets. I'm going to post a couple of them here.

Approach #1
So I approach these girls who are sitting down and this is kind of how it goes....

- I open the set saying "Hey, how are you guys doing?" and then one says "Fine" I think. So eventually they just continue talking and then I use a little C+F going "So are you girls usually this nervous around guys?" they laugh and that opens the set.

- At one point I talked about girl2 being shy and start saying stuff like "I could see it now though, you two are at a bar with your friends and you're being really chatty, but Girl1's being shy". And she eventually tells me Girl2 is actually the loud one.

- Eventually Girl2 leaves and I start vibing with girl1. At one point I bring up guitar and she's like "Oh, you play guitar that's cool". And we start vibing off of that.

- At one point I say "So what are your names? I know Girl2 she used to be in my gym, yeah she used to be that type of girl who would sit on the sidelines and talk, while everyone else was playing". Then she tells me how she used to do that stuff in gym class and I asked "Why though? Don't you like to work out and stuff?" and she says "Yeah, I just don't like gym class, but I do like working out, I used to do cross country". And we vibe on that.

- At one point we talk about music, but nothing really interesting happens there.

- The set ends when she's like "Well I have to go to the bathroom" blah blah. Then I say "You know what I found weird though, we've been talking all this time and I didn't get your name" then she tells me "Margeret" or however you spell it.
That was a pretty good set, the girls laughed at my jokes and I vibed with them.

Rest of the approaches really weren't worth mentioning.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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you should have got her number and used it to get a name and left before she went to the bathroom.
 

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Thing is with numbers I'm just afraid that despite all the interest and stuff, she won't give it, that's how girls are.
 

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ElStud said:
Thing is with numbers I'm just afraid that despite all the interest and stuff, she won't give it, that's how girls are.

why didnt you reply to my advice in your other approach thread?
 

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Here is a better idea ElStud. Don't go out trying to get numbers and dates. Go out and try to get rejections. In other words your goal is NOT to get numbers but to go out and get rejected. If you have no intention of getting numbers then getting a rejection will be not be a loss.

Make it your goal to get rejected 10 times. You don't want a number, you want a rejection. But don't go out of your way and make a total ass out of yourself. Because you never know that on your way to your daily rejection quota you might actually get a number ;)
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Well thing is, I don't go out looking for numbers and stuff, I just go in there having fun. And every time I HAVE asked for a number, mostly in mall approaches, I've been turned down.
 

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ElStud said:
Thing is with numbers I'm just afraid that despite all the interest and stuff, she won't give it, that's how girls are.
And if she doesn't give it, what's the worse that could happen? Your ego gets hurt a little? So what. Try it, you might be pleasantly surprised.

A couple months back when I used the advice on this site to set out and get dates, I thought the first time I was going to get a number, I would be rejected... I wasn't to my surprise.

Here's the thread: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=129943

A month and half later, I'm not nervous anymore when I approach chicks. I do get rejected, but that doesn't worry me.
 

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How many girls have you actually asked for their number?

Remember the whole thing is a numbers game. You go up to and talk to 20 girls and ask for their number. 19 girls reject you will guess what, you just got a number.

It's good to go out and talk to the girls but in the end you won't get over the fear of rejection.
 

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GoSens said:
Guess what that means? It means that you aren't doing something right, while in set. You don't give much details in your FRs, but I get the sense you aren't getting much attraction from the girls, despite your claims that they're showing interest. If a girl was truly interested, she'd give you her number when you ask. Don't let past rejections get in the way, think of them more as a lesson learned.

BTW, I still think you should post your FRs in other forums as well, so you can get a broader range of feedback.
Well let's see, she shows a ton of interest, asking me what grade I'm in, laughing at what I say and stuff. Of course I'm not going to tell the WHOLE interaction because first of all, I can't remember every specific detail and second of all, no one here would want to read all that. But yeah, the approach went very well, she was interested in what I had to say and we vibed. It's probably the fact that the body temperature just isn't up high that she would reject. She said "It was nice meeting you" but come on, what girl doesn't.
 

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GoSens said:
Guess what that means? It means that you aren't doing something right, while in set. You don't give much details in your FRs, but I get the sense you aren't getting much attraction from the girls, despite your claims that they're showing interest. If a girl was truly interested, she'd give you her number when you ask. Don't let past rejections get in the way, think of them more as a lesson learned.

BTW, I still think you should post your FRs in other forums as well, so you can get a broader range of feedback.
Amen.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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ElStud said:
Well let's see, she shows a ton of interest, asking me what grade I'm in, laughing at what I say and stuff. Of course I'm not going to tell the WHOLE interaction because first of all, I can't remember every specific detail and second of all, no one here would want to read all that. But yeah, the approach went very well, she was interested in what I had to say and we vibed. It's probably the fact that the body temperature just isn't up high that she would reject. She said "It was nice meeting you" but come on, what girl doesn't.
You say that about every girl you meet. "Shes interested" then why dont you ever escalate things.
 

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u made 5 threads like this in the last week........why do you keep copying and pasting them into a blue background? are u stealing these approaches from another forum??

Elstud, IF these are your field reports, you cant tell us that girls are interested in you, because you don't have a single hookup or number to justify the "interest"
 

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Real said:
u made 5 threads like this in the last week........why do you keep copying and pasting them into a blue background? are u stealing these approaches from another forum??

Elstud, IF these are your field reports, you cant tell us that girls are interested in you, because you don't have a single hookup or number to justify the "interest"
To Real, I have to say one thing. Get a fvcking life and stop bothering those that are doing more than sitting on there computers all day and masturbating like you. That's all you are is a fvcking troll who already got banned once and if you keep this up, you'll probably get banned again. First of all, you have 0, zilch, field reports and then you accuse someone who's actually doing sh1t of stealing approaches? Get out of here with that childish sh1t.
 

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ElStud said:
Thing is with numbers I'm just afraid that despite all the interest and stuff, she won't give it, that's how girls are.
How do you think everybody else gets numbers?
I'm going to highlight this because it's your big problem that's holding you back from success.

"with numbers I'm just afraid that despite all the interest and stuff, she won't give it, that's how girls are."
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Excuse me but I don't believe I titled this thread "Come here KBJ's and brag about how you can get numbers". Until I somehow retitle the thread that, don't troll it with this stuff. As for the people actually giving advice, thanks guys.
 

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Elstud, I want you to read this again and tell me what you think of it:

"with numbers I'm just afraid that despite all the interest and stuff, she won't give it, that's how girls are."

Remember, this is something you said about yourself.
 

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How about no and you stop trolling my thread.
 

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ElStud said:
To Real, I have to say one thing. Get a fvcking life and stop bothering those that are doing more than sitting on there computers all day and masturbating like you. That's all you are is a fvcking troll who already got banned once and if you keep this up, you'll probably get banned again. First of all, you have 0, zilch, field reports and then you accuse someone who's actually doing sh1t of stealing approaches? Get out of here with that childish sh1t.
Hey don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love :crackup:
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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