FR: "Seduced" a married woman

[Jariel]

I wanted to spend Christmas with my girlfriend and was feeling a bit put out because she wanted to spend it with her family and wouldn't make any compromises. I should have understood, but I have had doubts about my relationship for a while and have started getting back into my "seducer mentality", making conversations with women and exercising my charm a lot more.

Anyway, I went out with some friends on Christmas eve and ended up sitting next to a couple of Indian girls who were drinking in the same bar as us. There was a guy with them for a while, but he left, kissing one of the girls on his way out. The women were both very attractive, classy, but real stuck up types, and seemed to look down their noses at us.

I suppose their snobbiness motivated me to speak to them, just to see what kind of reaction I'd get. I've always been proud of my ability to overcome class and race barriers, and bring stuck up people down to earth so I decided just to be a bit lighthearted and cheeky and make conversation. I leaned over and asked "So, are you ladies all ready for Christmas?" They seemed quite hesitant, but receptive. They responded with a friendly "yeah" and I followed up by asking what they had planned. The one girl explained she was staying with her mum and dad, the other said she and her husband (the guy I saw leaving earlier) were from London and come to visit his relatives.

The conversation evolved from there. We just asked general "getting to know you" questions. I found out the married woman was from a very affluent part of London and she and her husband were in really good jobs, owned a 3 storey house. I felt a little intimidated if I'm being honest. She's 33 and had been "happily married" (arranged marriage) for 9 years. Somehow the topic changed at some point to my physique and they wanted to know what supplements I took, how I worked out etc. The single girl commented that I had a "hot bod" and the married one agreed tentatively. I got a bit flustered and just joked "I'm glad I got talking to you now".

These girls were so hot so I was extremely flattered. The married one was in amazing shape and I was getting quite turned on just looking at her. Being married and religious, I just accepted she was as far out of my reach as I can find. I have a girlfriend anyway, so I had no intention of pursuing anything with these women; I just wanted a friendly chat and was enjoying the attention (and ego boost).

They both started getting more flirty with me, bought me a drink and after getting up to get drinks ended up sitting either side of me. I really started to feel like a stud with these two women all over me and my friends gave me lots of suggestive nods.

The married woman handed me her camera and asked me to take a photo of her and her friend. She then asked me to pose for a photo with her friend. I put my arm around her and she rested her head on my chest. Then the married woman wanted a photo with me, and she wrapped her arm around me and put her hand on my chest. It was a very compromising photo that I wouldn't want her husband or my girlfriend to see.

I barely got to speak to my friends all evening because these girls had stolen me away, in the words of my friend. The girls got a tipsy as the night went on and were more and more flirty and touchy. The married woman wrapped her legs over my lap, then rested her head on my shoulder and seemed to get really comfortable with me. I knew my girlfriend wouldn't catch me, but I feared this woman's husband might. He was much smaller than me so posed no physical threat, but I still wouldn't want a big scene.

Really, it wasn't right that I was allowing and encouraging it, but I just figured it was a bit of fun. It's been a long time since I've really flirted with anyone other than my girlfriend and it was nice to know I've still got it.

At one point the single girl had gone to the bathroom leaving me and the married woman alone. We were talking really close into each other's ears (the music had been turned up so it was hard to hear) and she turned into my face and next thing I know we were kissing.

I didn't pull away immediately, but after we pulled apart I told her "we shouldn't" and she replied "I know". I didn't feel I needed to explain anything so I didn't. She said she'd better go look for her friend and so I went and joined my friends again. Either they didn't see what had happened or they didn't mention it (they were all very drunk and some were falling asleep though).

The women came back and got their coats. The married one came upto me and gave me a big hug, saying it was a pleasure to meet me. The other girl gave me a hug too, then I went back to my friends who were also getting their coats on ready to leave.

That was it. Even though I was the first to stop it going further, I think she would have done the same sooner or later. She was probably just in the same mind set as me - up for a bit of flirtation and attention.

I do feel guilty about what happened, but I also feel very flattered. I've kissed attractive women before, but never a religious Indian woman who is married and so much more rich and successful than me.

It has also led me to think that I really need to consider my relationship in the new year. This is the 2nd time within a month I have kissed another woman. My girlfriend has always been fair to me, and I think I owe her the respect of finishing with her instead of cheating.

 

[azanon]

That was a nice story.

I'm not so sure i'd give you all the credit though on who did the seducing, ;-). Ok sure, always being the first to say "hi" sometimes isnt easy, but going by your story, those women took it from there.

 

[Desdinova]

Jariel - welcome to the world of the Don Juan. Get used to women (married or single) flirting with you. Real men are scarce, and they're going to continue competing with your gf to get a piece of you.

 

[azanon]

Jariel - welcome to the world of the Don Juan.

He has 2,447 posts here ;-)

 

[amoka]

That was a great move. Congrats, Jeriel.

 

[Jariel]

Thanks guys.

Indeed, I can't take full credit for seducing them (hence the quotations). If they hadn't been so receptive, I'd have given up and end of story, so you are right there azanon.

I think a couple of factors on my part helped: first I was actually very polite and friendly, and the second was that I didn't show any intention of scoring with them. Even though they were attracted to me, I think if I'd have gone in with a chat up line or seduction strategy, I'd have scared them off, whereas they were free to control the pace.

I've always said that seduction is best treated like a volume slider - turn it up too much too soon and it's uncomfortable, yet turn it up gradually and it's easier to adjust to.

I think a lot of the more textbook guys would have seen how stuck up these women appeared and bombarded them with neghits. I'd hate to think how that would have turned out though.

Yeah, I do have a lot of posts here and felt I got a grip on the Don Juan way over a year ago, but have been totally out of the game since meeting my GF and this is the first time I've so much as flirted with women for 11 months!

 

[azanon]

I liked the story because i didn't end up having ill feelings towards the married woman. It was easy to understand why she behaved the way she did given the context of your story.

 

[Ojete]

Thanks guys.

Indeed, I can't take full credit for seducing them (hence the quotations). If they hadn't been so receptive, I'd have given up and end of story, so you are right there azanon.

I think a couple of factors on my part helped: first I was actually very polite and friendly, and the second was that I didn't show any intention of scoring with them. Even though they were attracted to me, I think if I'd have gone in with a chat up line or seduction strategy, I'd have scared them off, whereas they were free to control the pace.

I've always said that seduction is best treated like a volume slider - turn it up too much too soon and it's uncomfortable, yet turn it up gradually and it's easier to adjust to.

I think a lot of the more textbook guys would have seen how stuck up these women appeared and bombarded them with neghits. I'd hate to think how that would have turned out though.

Yeah, I do have a lot of posts here and felt I got a grip on the Don Juan way over a year ago, but have been totally out of the game since meeting my GF and this is the first time I've so much as flirted with women for 11 months!

Beautiful man. You nailed it: it's a natural dance, an art.

Greetings

 

[Desdinova]

but have been totally out of the game since meeting my GF

Just because you've taken yourself out of the game, it doesn't mean you're no longer attractive to other women. Even though you don't actually run "game" on them, they'll still see you as an attractive MAN. That's when "game" helps you speed things up and close the deal while your personality does all the attracting. You've become a "natural", but you have the skill to enhance your achievements.

 

[Jariel]

I liked the story because i didn't end up having ill feelings towards the married woman. It was easy to understand why she behaved the way she did given the context of your story.

I agree, that's how I saw it too. I don't believe this woman was a wh0re, and neither am I. We got caught up in the moment and both acted against our rational judgement. As long as she's smart enough to delete the photos or keep them from her husband, I don't think anyone will be hurt by it.

Just because you've taken yourself out of the game, it doesn't mean you're no longer attractive to other women. Even though you don't actually run "game" on them, they'll still see you as an attractive MAN. That's when "game" helps you speed things up and close the deal while your personality does all the attracting. You've become a "natural", but you have the skill to enhance your achievements.

Absolutely, and that's where DJs shine above the rest because they have that natural advantage. Everything from my physique to my charisma is a result of self improvement, something I've developed and is part of who I am wherever I go and whoever I speak to.

 

[Last Man Standing]

Considering that she was married, the onus was on her not to escalate the situation to where it went -- she accepted your advances and it was inevitable to end up like it did because SHE wanted it to happen!

By the mere fact that a married woman is there, in a club, without her husband shows you she has no respect for him and that she is cheating on him - if she is so bold to do this in public and in the presence of someone she knows imagine what she is doing in private!!

Don't marry women with this mindset -- her husband is a fool!!

 

[Latinoman]

Considering that she was married, the onus was on her not to escalate the situation to where it went -- she accepted your advances and it was inevitable to end up like it did because SHE wanted it to happen!

By the mere fact that a married woman is there, in a club, without her husband shows you she has no respect for him and that she is cheating on him - if she is so bold to do this in public and in the presence of someone she knows imagine what she is doing in private!!

Don't marry women with this mindset -- her husband is a fool!!

I actually agree with you on this.

 

[Scorched]

I bet it took a lot out of you to turn her down...

Everytime I've had a chance and turned the girl away, like didn't ask for her number, etc... It would always eat me up inside...

Do you think you could have went far with the friend?

 

[Jariel]

By the mere fact that a married woman is there, in a club, without her husband shows you she has no respect for him and that she is cheating on him - if she is so bold to do this in public and in the presence of someone she knows imagine what she is doing in private!!

I agree with the content of what you are saying, but in this case it wasn't a club we were in, it was what we brits call a "pub" - a quiet bar where locals go to drink. She was just catching up with her friend at Christmas. Also, her husband was there to begin with, but he left to catch up with some friends.

What she did was wrong, but I have a girlfriend so I was guilty too. I figure if I can succumb to the moment, then I can't blame her for it either.

I bet it took a lot out of you to turn her down...

Everytime I've had a chance and turned the girl away, like didn't ask for her number, etc... It would always eat me up inside...

Do you think you could have went far with the friend?

It did take a lot because I was so attracted to her, but I was kinda happy to quit while ahead. It was a massive ego boost for me so I feel like I've gained something valuable from the experience and have no regrets.

As for the friend, I think I could have gone further with her, but I was more distant and cooler with the friend because I knew she was available and might want more. With the married one, my conscience felt clean because I knew it would not go any further.

 

[azanon]

Considering that she was married, the onus was on her not to escalate the situation to where it went -- she accepted your advances and it was inevitable to end up like it did because SHE wanted it to happen!

By the mere fact that a married woman is there, in a club, without her husband shows you she has no respect for him and that she is cheating on him - if she is so bold to do this in public and in the presence of someone she knows imagine what she is doing in private!!

Don't marry women with this mindset -- her husband is a fool!!

To clarify my thoughts, i wasn't saying I'd want her to do that if i was married to her. I also wasn't saying I'd want to be married to a woman like that either. I was just saying I understood why she did what she did and, in the end, could identify with her actions.

 

[Zwitterion]

Good Job

 

[amoka]

Probably she is an open relationship with her husband. And he probably left to meet another chick...

 

[MindOverMatter]

The women were both very attractive, classy, but real stuck up types, and seemed to look down their noses at us.

I suppose their snobbiness motivated me to speak to them, just to see what kind of reaction I'd get. I've always been proud of my ability to overcome class and race barriers, and bring stuck up people down to earth so I decided just to be a bit lighthearted and cheeky and make conversation.

This part impressed me, because I know a lot of players/seducers that would not have bothered with these women (based on how you described them), but yet you saw it as a challange and took it head on. With this kind of attitude, sky is the limit, not only in seduction, but in life.

Nice FR Jariel, as always, I've enjoyed reading your progress in seduction since the Dirtheart days. Your posts have definetly shown a period of growth in the last few years, just keep it up. Other people should definetly pay attention to these.

Looks + attitude + strong character = no limit.

 

[Desdinova]

It has also led me to think that I really need to consider my relationship in the new year. This is the 2nd time within a month I have kissed another woman. My girlfriend has always been fair to me, and I think I owe her the respect of finishing with her instead of cheating.

I'm going to give you my take on this whole part of the Don Juan with Girlfriend situation. I've been kissed by quite a few women since entering a LTR, and I've never gone all the way with them. I also never tell my woman a thing, because the average bytch is nothing compared to her (note: this is not a pedestal mindset, it the choice of a good woman)

I view it as part of the lifestyle, much like a rock star has women clawing at him. Many rock stars are faithfully married to their wives, and endure the groupies picking and clawing at them as part of their lifestyle and job. IMO, being a Don Juan is no different (except for the fame and fortune )

 

[Jariel]

This part impressed me, because I know a lot of players/seducers that would not have bothered with these women (based on how you described them), but yet you saw it as a challange and took it head on. With this kind of attitude, sky is the limit, not only in seduction, but in life.

Nice FR Jariel, as always, I've enjoyed reading your progress in seduction since the Dirtheart days. Your posts have definetly shown a period of growth in the last few years, just keep it up. Other people should definetly pay attention to these.

Looks + attitude + strong character = no limit.

Thanks man, I know you're one of the posters here who has seen my development, and also one of the posters who has inspired me most. Good to see you still dropping in from time to time!

Hope to see more contributions from you at some point!