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FR - Phone - Bringing Down The Defensive Cold Wall (w000t!!)

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Situation:

So, it's my friend's birthday Tuesday, I like her a lot. So I phoned her up and started talking to her. Firstly, I was a retard and forgot her birthdate..so I started to point out that my other friend had a birthday Friday, and she tipped me that her's is Tuesday (sweet, go retarded discreteness).

Nextly, I asked if I could spend some time with her and her family (take note that I am very much welcomed by her parents), she gave the excuses of:

1. I have homework (in antipication of)
2. Birthday, family thing.
3. Just busy.


So we talked about something else after the intial refusal, came back to the topic again. I related to how her homework compares with me working every morning and every weekend, still keeping on top of my homework and chores. Additionally, she asked about the two Fridays coming up for us to hang out, I can't (Working both of them, go me!) . I had the offer of NEXT monday, ahah, no, I was fighting for this. Went off topic again and came back once more (3rd time).



(take a break):woo: :woo:



So, I've heard her reasons for not letting me come over, she then gave me a spot question, why do you want to come over on Tuesday, given my reasons?

1. It's your birthday, special to you and I want to be there.

2. I want to see you. (it's been a week, and that was a 5 minute blip on the radar)

3. (Off top of head, crappy excuse) , I'll help setup the computer (they are working on getting their new computer up)


So, I've equalled her reasons (3), I've surpassed her level of busyness and yet I still want to see her, and YET she says no. So knowing my stance in her parent's eyes...

"Ask your mom then."
-- "She's not home."
"Your dad then."
-- "He's busy with the computer."
"Just go ask him."
-- "Fine, I'll go ask."

5 minutes later...

-- "How about staying for dinner?"
"I would love too, but before I go (had to go soon) , one more question."
-- "You're leaving?"
"Gotta go home (wasn't home)"
-- "Ok"
"Do you WANT me to be there?"
-- "It's not that I don't want you here, it's just that we're were all busy"
"Well, look what asking can do, see you Tuesday night"
-- "See ya"


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(take another break, drink a beer) :woo: :woo:



My GOD, review time on this 20 minute phone call.

Homework - I dealt with the same level of homework, and if I had time to do things (lots...), then she'll have no problem, BS reason.

Family Thing (Birthday) - Understandable in a way, but still, when the closest guy to you wants to spend time with you and the family...

Busy - Bullllsh!t, I'm more busy.

So, with a little bit of persistance and knowing how to handle it, I have gone from nearly giving up the fight to spend Tuesday with her to having dinner (and the evening) with her and her family.


(Almost done! Pass Go!, Collect $200)


Plans:
Get small gift AND DO NOT SEE HER until Tuesday night. It's already been a week since I've seen her last and the sudden cracking of her defensive wall makes it apporiate for me to appear when expected, not before. (builds antipication.) If all goes well, it makes my relationship with her go a few steps forward, since I knocked down the defensive wall, she (should) have a good time and I took control ;). This will all lead to more hanging out :D.



Lesson:
Coldness doesn't mean screwed. Keep trying, push every button you can get away with and...take advantage of authority (parents).


w00t :woo: :woo:
Me = happy.

Finale. ^^
 

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This is gay, why would I bother putting up something of usefulness if not a single person will give two sh!ts and reply.

If you can't reply to anything in the first post, at least tell me why I am being ignored by a good few thousand people on a daily basis and if I should bother even posting this crap?

Thanks.....
 

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Want my take on this?


Sure, you got in.... but you had to pry and pry. That's about as bad as it gets.

If she REALLY wanted to be with you on her birthday, she would have invited you over, or at least hinted at it.

I think this approach is supplication to the 'nth degree. You're were desperate to go over there on tuesday...... and you said that you're just friends? :rolleyes: To her, yes... to you.... I'm not so sure.


She really doesn't want you there, and she'll resent you for it.
 

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and if I should bother even posting this crap?
You probably shouldn't bother...... this was a really bad way of being persistent.

There's confident persistence, and then there's this......
 

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LOL you had to get her to ask her mommie and daddy. You sir are a lewser. Take a hint man, she didn't want you there and you almost forced yourself in. She will not be looking forward to seeing you and only did it in the end out of pity and perhaps to please her parents.
 

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in the same manner that you BEGGED to come over you have BEGGED us to comment.


patheta-sad.

oh u were right about one thing though:

This is gay
 

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Here's a update.

Her sister emailed me this morning telling me that she's in a kinda bad mood for some reason, it was NOT that she didn't want me there, she just wasn't feeling great I guess...meh.

So I saw her today, she was in a good mood, asked if I would just come home with her instead of going home myself and coming back. I then told her I'd be back "why?!?" she responded..so I went and came back with a novel something for her (a little 3D picture in glass) and that seemed to make her happy. (it was an early birthday present).

So.
1. I did not fail
2. ...or piss her off
3. ...or whatever you might think
4. She was happy to see me, happy to accept me for tomorrow.

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Arlanda
masturbation.
No

RoeCyris
in the same manner that you BEGGED to come over you have BEGGED us to comment.
I've had 3 threads go off the page without a hint of interest, so I was pissed off.

gungho
LOL you had to get her to ask her mommie and daddy. You sir are a lewser. Take a hint man, she didn't want you there and you almost forced yourself in. She will not be looking forward to seeing you and only did it in the end out of pity and perhaps to please her parents.
We will see.

The Bad Ass Canadian
You probably shouldn't bother...... this was a really bad way of being persistent.
There's confident persistence, and then there's this......
Possibly, we will see.


The Bad Ass Canadian
If she REALLY wanted to be with you on her birthday, she would have invited you over, or at least hinted at it.
Can't say for sure, she wasn't in the greatest mood.

I think this approach is supplication to the 'nth degree. You're were desperate to go over there on tuesday......
And you said that you're just friends? To her, yes... to you.... I'm not so sure.
Supplication - not really, when you consider she could of said no to asking him, instead she wandered off, did whatever, came back and asked dinner, and my last question of if SHE WOULD LIKE ME THERE, she was totaly ok with it (along with today)
Yes, I know, I think of more. Well aware of that.

She really doesn't want you there, and she'll resent you for it.
We will see.
 

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Originally posted by Docs
Here's a update.

Her sister emailed me this morning telling me that she's in a kinda bad mood for some reason, it was NOT that she didn't want me there, she just wasn't feeling great I guess...meh.

So I saw her today, she was in a good mood, asked if I would just come home with her instead of going home myself and coming back. I then told her I'd be back "why?!?" she responded..so I went and came back with a novel something for her (a little 3D picture in glass) and that seemed to make her happy. (it was an early birthday present).

So.
1. I did not fail
2. ...or piss her off
3. ...or whatever you might think
4. She was happy to see me, happy to accept me for tomorrow.

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Answering Posts:

Arlanda

No

RoeCyris

I've had 3 threads go off the page without a hint of interest, so I was pissed off.

gungho

We will see.

The Bad Ass Canadian

Possibly, we will see.


The Bad Ass Canadian

Can't say for sure, she wasn't in the greatest mood.


Supplication - not really, when you consider she could of said no to asking him, instead she wandered off, did whatever, came back and asked dinner, and my last question of if SHE WOULD LIKE ME THERE, she was totaly ok with it (along with today)
Yes, I know, I think of more. Well aware of that.


We will see.
:rolleyes:


In no place in your orginal post did you say that she was "In a BAD Mood".....

I'm not wrong with what I posted, but that little tid-bit of info could change things a bit.... but it was still reall stupid way to get invited to her house.

She really would invite you if she wanted you there... don't fool yourself. Maybe not that night, but the next day when she was in a better mood..... I just can't get over the prying you did to get in there. lol
 

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In no place in your orginal post did you say that she was "In a BAD Mood".....
it's not in the orginal post, BECAUSE I DID NOT KNOW. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I just can't get over the prying you did to get in there. lol
:woo: You gotta do what you gotta do, lol...nah..i'm just persistant and know how to make things happen :)
 

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You gotta do what you gotta do, lol...nah..i'm just persistant and know how to make things happen
Yeah, by begging. I wouldn't even have asked her to ask her parents--talk about NEEDY. Oh yeah, and desperate, too.

It's just like the others said, she probably just felt SORRY for you.
 

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Yeah, by begging. I wouldn't even have asked her to ask her parents--talk about NEEDY. Oh yeah, and desperate, too.
I only asked her to ask her parents because that was the only way I could disprove her 'busy life' after everything.

It's just like the others said, she probably just felt SORRY for you.
Could be, I won't deny nor accept this statement yet, will see tomorrow.
 
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