"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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[FR] Online Dating IRL

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Roommate signed up for a Speed Dating session and asked me to come. Why not?

She (6) was good social proof as I entered social mode by talking to the helpless souls and H(?)B's before the event. 2/15 were actually attractive, not fat or ugly that is. Most of my conversations were absolute BS.

Convo's with HB2's

What do you do for fun?
I go to the dog park, although I don't own a dog. I like to pet the big ones, those little ones piss me the f*ck off. I like to play fetch with the big dogs, the little ones are like b*tches trying to sit on your lap.

If you had 5 years to live, what would you do?
I would go to China and try to impregnate as many women as I can.

What do you do for a living?
I'm a sales rep influencing people to not only look at their current environment, but also plan for future growth.
Where do you work at?
McDonalds.

I said yes to the 2 I found attractive. $35 and 3 hours in hopes of getting 2 numbers? No thanks. Speed Dating is Beta Game.

Will update when results are in.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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To clarify, with the ones I said yes to, I tried.

Strong eye contact, engaging convo and making them laugh and wanting more. If you time it right, you will be forced to move on once they engaged in you excitingly (word?.) I was lucky enough to not be stuck with them during the first 'date' thats what betas do. Find the hot chick and try to secure them.
 
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Speed dating summary:

1) Most of the men are socially inept at these events, that's why they are there.

2) Most of the women are ugly (4's & 5's or below), that's why they are there.

3) If there are any attractive women at these events, they are only there to act as support for their fat, ugly friend and are not interested in the event at all.

4) The "free" food at these events typically sucks ass.

5) The events tend to be depressing, a bunch of beta males who have no social skills and a bunch of fat, ugly women hoping to husband up in the next 2-3 years.

6) Stay away if you have ANYTHING going for you.
 

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Sounds horrible.... from the outset it sounds horrible.... Sounds like a bunch of mini-job interviews to me... All the way down to the fakeness...

I can't imagine paying for this...

I do know Joseph W South (of the "Man Up" podcast) used to do a lot of speed dating with success. But he also lives on a Caribbean island, where the selection is probably better than most.

Where I live? I'm sure that TillTheEnd would be right - nothing by uglies would show up...
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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bukowski_merit said:
Sounds horrible.... from the outset it sounds horrible.... Sounds like a bunch of mini-job interviews to me... All the way down to the fakeness...

I can't imagine paying for this...

I do know Joseph W South (of the "Man Up" podcast) used to do a lot of speed dating with success. But he also lives on a Caribbean island, where the selection is probably better than most.

Where I live? I'm sure that TillTheEnd would be right - nothing by uglies would show up...
In fairness, these events can be hit or miss....but mostly miss. There is no reason that a NORMAL, ATTRACTIVE girl EVER needs to use any medium specifically designed for singles to meet someone. EVER. This logic includes online dating.

We all know that men approach attractive women pretty much anywhere and at any time (contrary to the ridiculous and false PUA propaganda that hot women rarely get approached). I have never personally met or known of an attractive, stable woman who was single for more than 3 months and if she was, it was purely by choice.
 
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Got 1 mutual match and she was the most attractive IMO. 9 other women picked me. My roommate did not pick any guys, but 13 guys picked her.

I wouldn't recommend speed dating, but if you go, here are some tips from experience.

1) Get buddy-buddy with the organizers and bartenders.
2) Don't take this seriously, have fun.
3) Ask intriguing questions ie: What would you name your boat?
4) Eye contact, pupils don't lie.
5) Answers most of their questions vaguely and indirectly.
6) Have a very relaxed and confident body language. Lean back with one leg over the other, drink in one hand and other thumb in your front pocket.
7) Keep your drinks to a minimal.
8) Have a mental clock and leave on a high note.
9) Drop in fun date ideas
10) Don't ask regular questions, they are sick of answering it all night. Random spontaneity.

As TTEoT said, a lot of women are their because of their friends.
 

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BeginningDJ said:
Got 1 mutual match and she was the most attractive IMO. 9 other women picked me. My roommate did not pick any guys, but 13 guys picked her.

I wouldn't recommend speed dating, but if you go, here are some tips from experience.

1) Get buddy-buddy with the organizers and bartenders.
2) Don't take this seriously, have fun.
3) Ask intriguing questions ie: What would you name your boat?
4) Eye contact, pupils don't lie.
5) Answers most of their questions vaguely and indirectly.
6) Have a very relaxed and confident body language. Lean back with one leg over the other, drink in one hand and other thumb in your front pocket.
7) Keep your drinks to a minimal.
8) Have a mental clock and leave on a high note.
9) Drop in fun date ideas
10) Don't ask regular questions, they are sick of answering it all night. Random spontaneity.

As TTEoT said, a lot of women are their because of their friends.
Speed Dating = Sped dating (as in Special Ed.)

It's aspies, foreveralones, incels and other assorted gimps trying to score with Maggie Moo's.

A friend of mine did it a few times. Dude is your typical "nice guy" = Control freak who wants to "nice" his way to a "wifey". Not even the chicks there picked him. He tried to get me to do it a while back. I knew it would be a joke. I should've did it for the goof. But said f'that. Reading this thread confirmed what I thought it was even though I'd never done it.
 
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Naughty Ninja said:

A friend of mine did it a few times. Dude is your typical "nice guy" = Control freak who wants to "nice" his way to a "wifey". Not even the chicks there picked him. He tried to get me to do it a while back. I knew it would be a joke. I should've did it for the goof. But said f'that. Reading this thread confirmed what I thought it was even though I'd never done it.
It's fascinating he kept doing it, despite his lack of success. Some guys simply don't get it.
 

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It's fascinating he kept doing it, despite his lack of success. Some guys simply don't get it.

Yet people go clubbing to pick up night after night and come home alone almost every time, yet they keep doing it. To each his own.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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This is a good thread. I always wondered about speed dating. Would like to hear more stories.

TillTheEndOfTime said:
There is no reason that a NORMAL, ATTRACTIVE girl EVER needs to use any medium specifically designed for singles to meet someone. EVER. This logic includes online dating.
Very true. I do online dating but realize that the true hotties are never on it. Or if their friend talked them into putting up a profile as a goof, they're gone within a couple of days at most.

I went to grad school with an honest to god HB9.5. The only thing that kept her from being a 10 was she was a little too tall (about 5'11). She lived, and still lives, in Vegas. In her early 20s she was so beautiful that clubs would pay her cash just to show up to the club. Didn't have to do anything, just be there.

So I was visiting Vegas one day and we met downtown some where. I parked on one side of the street. She was at the other end of the block. She saw me and started walking down the block toward me as I waited by my car (alpha move LOL). On her way toward me she was hit on by two guys in a row on the street and two more guys came out of a bar and offered to buy her a drink if she would come inside. All this happened literally in one block as she walked toward me. It was unbelievable. In fairness though she was absolutely stunning.

When she reached me I was laughing and shaking my head. She asked, "What?" She was so used to what had just happened that it didn't even register in her mind as something unique.

I'm sure every guy who hit on her said to himself, "If I don't do this I'm always going to regret it." And so when she politely said no they didn't seem upset but kept smiling. I'm sure they realized they had no shot and were just throwing a hail-mary by talking with her.

She ended up marrying a guy who approached her in a grocery store.
 

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Zarky said:
Or if their friend talked them into putting up a profile as a goof, they're gone within a couple of days at most.
If an attractive, decent girl does create an online account, the penis pics sent to her and the utterly pathetic and poorly formed messages sent to her will scare her off in a heartbeat.

That leaves psychos, AW's and the uglies.
 

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Zarky said:
So I was visiting Vegas one day and we met downtown some where. I parked on one side of the street. She was at the other end of the block. She saw me and started walking down the block toward me as I waited by my car (alpha move LOL). On her way toward me she was hit on by two guys in a row on the street and two more guys came out of a bar and offered to buy her a drink if she would come inside. All this happened literally in one block as she walked toward me. It was unbelievable. In fairness though she was absolutely stunning.

She ended up marrying a guy who approached her in a grocery store.

But....but....but....PUA theory says that hot girls RARELY get approached because guys are too scared and that if you buy their book for $29.95, YOU too can learn how to talk to them and make them wet???? WAAAAHHH :cry:

Guys, just another example of why you should take anything a so-called "pua guru" says with a bucket of salt.

Sorry, just needed to put that plug in there to make a point about how technique was sold in the pua community under false pretenses.
 
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TillTheEndOfTime said:
Yet people go clubbing to pick up night after night and come home alone almost every time, yet they keep doing it. To each his own.
That's why I'm a HUGE advocate of day game. You approach on your own terms with a better pool to choose from and better quality women (attractiveness.) Very minimal time and resource investment.

Night game can be easier since alcohol is involved. That is what they preach in PUA theory. Go out 5 nights a week and you will get laid. True, but the investment isn't always worth it.
 
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