"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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FR: OKC # (LOL) that went dead re-initiates contact. Possible date tonight.

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Grabbed this # off OKC back in November or so, never met up with her. At that time I was experimenting with proceeding with text game very SLOWLY, so I believe I indirectly asked her if she was free a couple times, she didn't bite, and I never asked her out. For about a month after that I'd ping her a funny text every week or so, then just kind of forgot about her and stopped.

On Tuesday she texts me out of the blue.

Tuesday 2/19

3:25pm Hey, I just found an old conversation with you haha
3:59 Ah my favorite mexican text buddy..what up
4:02 Aw, you still remember! Haha nothing much, you?
4:04 I remember everything. Sitting in military class haha hbu
4:06 Really??? I just said nothing really! Haha I'm literally sitting in my room doing nothing
5:52 Hahaha guess I forgot that. Doing nothing?! That sh1t would not fly if we were hangin out
5:55 I bet it wouldn't! But for now, I'm just doing nothing haha
6:19 Goin out of your way to tell me you're not doing anything? You know I don't appreciate being bootycalled I have feelings
6:21 I'm not bootycalling you! I was just going down memory lane
8:42 Lol howve you been
8:43 Pretty good, what about you?

Didn't feel like talking that night so I blew her off til this morning

Thursday 2/21

9:59am Good I met some kids from your school actually
10:01 You did? That's kinda weird considering how I never meet people from my own school haha
10:02 Haha why not
10:03 Because everyone has their own clique and they're antisocial
10:05 Lol are you still on that stupid dating site
10:07 No haha I deleted that a loooooong time ago. I only had it for like a week lols. What about you?
10:08 Ya same everyone I met off it was crazy
10:09 This one chick told me she was 18 when she was actually 16 and lied about a buncha other stuff
10:10 Really? Haha everyone was so creepy
10:10 Ew, that's awkward
10:10 guess she was desperate for your D
10:12 My D? Ew no it was obviously my personality!!!!!!!!!!!!
10:13 I don't think so...
10:24 Hahaha hey I just don't like being treated as a piece of meat
10:25 Fiiiiiine. You're a piece of meat with a personality. Is that better? LOL
10:26 Hahah stopp it. Geez. Did I even ask you to hang out before? I feel like I just texted you a bunch and didn't even do anything
10:27 No, you never did haha You just texted me and you called me once to seduce me with your voice
10:29 LOL sounds like me sry bout that. Well I'll tell you now then - we should hang out
10:31 Hahaha, no. LOLjk, sure :)
10:32 Lol. K I'll make an effort here. I'm free tonight then busy til next wk hbu
10:34 I might be able to do tonight, I don't guarantee it though. Then I'm gone for the weekend, and yeah it wouldn't be until next week
10:38 Actually I have some shopping to do in ur area. Let's do this, I'll let you know when I'm going and if you're free you can tag along and I'll buy you some hot chocolate :D
10:42 Aw, that sounds good :)
10:42 Then we'll go fwck in the bathroom
10:43 WAIT SH!T I DIDN'T MEAN TO SEND THAT
10:45 hahahaha! I think you meant duck. We'll duck in the bathroom
10:45 Haha yes, duck from the crazy guy who walks in with a gun. It is chicago, after all
10:46 Exactly, you're just keeping me safe
10:47 Obviously :)
10:47 If he finds us tho I'm using you as a body shield. You're cute and all sweetie, but its every man for himself..
10:49 Aw, you're so swe....never mind
10:49 Hahah
10:50 But I'm sure my extremely good looks could convince him not to shoot me
10:50 Pshhh I'm so hot I'll turn him gay
10:52 pshhhh I'll turn him straight again
10:52 ..Are you trying to make me visualize a threesome?
10:55 No, I'm saying I'd steal your boyfriend away from you
10:56 U a$$hole
10:57 All is fair in love and war babe <3

Well we'll see tonight. Since I haven't cold approached in like a week now I've slowly started reverting back to a chode. If our date's on, I'll go out and do a bunch of cold approaches real quick to get my game going again
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I think u texted too much. That being said, you can fvck her first night for sure. Not trying to be critical but chicks get more clingy the more you give them cutesy chit chat. So if ur planning to pump and dump you might find her catching feelings. Basically just trying to say, once you know she's interested and attracted to you, keep as much space as you can at least until you get to the first date
 

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I like the text game - now, remember the lesson from the last one.

Go for the date. I enjoy texting too, and that was pretty solid there, but go for the date man. No wasting time. And be aggressive, too.
 

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Just got home from meeting her. And sarging a lot of other girls.

So on Thursday when I posted this, I ended up just blowing her off that night because I didn't feel like doing anything.

Today, I get the following text from her at 2:

So when is this shopping trip of yours?

I called her around 4. Left her a quick voicemail saying I was going to go shopping in her area in a little bit and for her to give me a call back.

She calls me back twice, but I'm on the phone with the bank. We text to arrange logistics of meeting up, I tell her the intersection to go to. It's going to be around 5:45 by the time we meet up, and she's already telling me she has to be back in her dorm by 6:30. I instantly change my mindset from a "trying to get her home" date to a quick "meet each other and don't even go for a kiss" thing. Normally I agree with "always kiss on the first date", but I knew it was only going to hurt me today because we only have like half an hour, plus I've never even met this b1tch before.

I get there first. Perfect, I have time to warm up. I head into Panera looking for chicks to hit on. I spot one sitting by the wall in the corner. I approach her and get the number.

I go back outside and find the girl that this thread is about. Greet her w/a hug, probably a little too forward since we've never met. Whatever. Introduce myself, tell her right away that I think she's cute.

Let me just say right away that I am NOT THE LEAST impressed. This chick is LAME. She's the only person I've ever met off a dating site, and it figures. Not only is she socially awkward, she's also not very respectful of how I'm smoothly keeping things going and filling up the holes that she makes. Even when I make the conversation about her, try to get to know her a little/talk about things she's interested in, she hardly makes any effort.

And it's NOT because she's hot or anything. I'd give her a 6, maybe a 7 if she dressed up. She's not the type who thinks she's hot sh1t either, I can tell.

Anyway, I haven't mentioned yet that the basis of this meeting was that I had a couple things I had to go shopping for, and she was tagging along. We start out walking to Target, I get my sh1t, then we sit down in the cafe area for a bit, then I walk her a couple blocks back in her direction. That's all we had time for.

I know that spending considerable time walking is not ideal for a date - the conversation simply isn't as intimate because there's much less eye contact, distractions everywhere, and less opportunity to escalate. So as SOON as the "adventure" aspect of me finding what I'm shopping for is over, I find a place to sit down.

When we're sitting down, she's checking her phone a LOT. I finally get the chance to make some good eye contact, and she keeps telling me to stop looking at her, that it's creepy. In fact she tells me a lot that I'm creepy. I always agree & amplify or shut her down when she says that. I change my vibe a lot, trying to find the right calibration for dis b1tch..even try some PUA stuff like the 20 questions game. Wasn't a bad interaction, just one-sided -- I was obviously keeping things light-hearted and fun, while she kept sabotaging our interaction.

I mean, this whole time I'm making her laugh constantly, but it's not the least bit interesting, and I'm not going to entertain some airhead for hours on end. Fwck that.

I walk her a couple blocks back in her direction then tell her I'm going to turn around. Boom, I stop walking, here's another chance to make use of some precious non-walking-around time. I make sure we stand face to face, she FINALLY starts holding eye contact with me. We have 2 minutes of the most organic conversation that we've had all night. I know very well that these 2 minutes are very likely going to be the only thing that will make her decide to see me again, and I make sure not to tease her at all during this time, I just milk it for as much fwcking rapport as I can. Then at the right moment, boom I cut it off, give her a quick hug, then say cya toots I'm back to shopping.

Definitely gonna go ghost for a week, then hit her up again. I may not be interested in her much, but maybe I can eventually stick my cube in her portal



Finished my shopping after that, got 3 more numbers in addition to the 1 I got before meeting up w/OKC chick. Nothing to get excited about though, it's obvious to me that all 4 of these numbers are flakes. The last girl happened to be a cute photography girl with a boyfriend who happens to live a block away from me, I approached her before getting on the bus and it turns out we got on the same bus and talked all the way home. Nice chick, works a sh1tload, I have a lot of respect for that, maybe she can become a nice friend for me and introduce me to some other chicks.

Then I got home and made a phone call to a chick whose number I got on Friday..that deserves a different thread though
 
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You need to grab your balls and go escalate as much as you can. These are f*cking online chicks, you're treating them like princesses. I don't buy your instant change of mindset, you were too scared to push the envelope.

I call bullsh*t on those saying online dating is "training wheels" for the younger, inexperienced guys. Sageproduct does cold approaches, but only secures dates with OKStupid chicks. Online dating hinders your game.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Of the 7 girls I've ever secured dates with this is the only one i've met online

There was absolutely no basis for her to want to hook up with me after spending 30 min together. None. If I tried anything I would have accomplished nothing and burned this seed before even planting it
 
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I just know of the 2 OKC chicks. Provide links to the (7) in person approach date reports so we can give you some pointers.
 

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No, not two OKC chicks, one OKC chick. If you're talking about this chick, that doesn't count because I never actually got a date with her.

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2 - don't have a report typed up anywhere. Would make for a funny post though, because she's a high schooler and her PARENTS showed up to our date. Happened last summer. Met her by hitting on her while she was working at her retail clothing job at the mall

3 - the first of many posts I made about her across many threads. Great girl, first girl who ever went on more than just one date with me and showed genuine interest in me. It wasn't until after going out with her that I started truly believing a girl could like me

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5 - Don't think I ever made a post about her anywhere. Met her by approaching her while she was training another employee at her retail clothing job. Was a crazy approach cuz she was working, and she tried to give me her Facebook and almost didn't give me her number. Went on a date w/her while I was seeing girl #3 above. Short date, tried to go for the make out multiple times, denied every time, kept trying, scared her off and never heard from her again. Chick was HOT, hotter than any other girl I've ever posted about

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And 7...well guess I'm one short. But it's looking like soon to be #7 is here.
 
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