"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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FR: Number closed a Freshman.

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So I was just walking and I started talking to this one Freshman girl. Can't remember very much of the convo, but I know early in the convo I started talking about how she resembled my ex girlfriend and stuff and that seemed to get interest from her. Then I remember at one point asking for her name and talking about how I remember her from indoor track. Eventually I started telling her how cute she was and all that stuff. Once I even said I should call her "Fuzzy" because her hair was so fuzzy or something. And this girls just all taking it in and showing interest. Eventually I started talking about Rock Band and said something like "Listen, I'm going to call you so we can play Rock Band one day" and I just gave her the phone and she put the number in. Eventually I ended the set hugging her, to which she hugged back and I left the set. This set was really just practice and to be honest, I'm probably not even going to bother calling her.

Note, that this is just an FR, a report of what happened in field. If you don't have anything positive to say or you want to hate or make assumptions, you'll probably get ignored. If you're the kind of person who argues when people don't take their advice, you best not post.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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HandyAndy said:
whats with you and rock band? girls dont want to play video games with you...
And yet let's count the number of numbers I've gotten by talking about it. "Girls don't want to play video games with you..." coming from a guy who publicly admitted he's scared to approach. You might want to get in some of your own number closes before giving others advice HandyAndy.
 

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HandyAndy said:
whats with you and rock band? girls dont want to play video games with you...
Girls play Rock Band. Don't be so harsh.

If he was bringing them over to play Halo 2 that would be a different story.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Don't give a reason why you want their number. Just take it.
 

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Congrats.

Why not use the number to practice the next stage of "seduction"? Might aswell practice what you do AFTER you get the number.
 

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ElStud said:
So I was just walking and I started talking to this one Freshman girl. Can't remember very much of the convo, but I know early in the convo I started talking about how she resembled my ex girlfriend and stuff and that seemed to get interest from her..

that's where I stopped reading.:down:
 

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Great job on the approach, your talkin about the ex g/f probably qualified her. Question though, how come you don't want to follow through with this girl? If she actually comes over to play rock band, she'll likely be willing to be your groupie.
 

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MacAvoy said:
Great job on the approach, your talkin about the ex g/f probably qualified her. Question though, how come you don't want to follow through with this girl? If she actually comes over to play rock band, she'll likely be willing to be your groupie.
Well lol she's only a Freshman and to be honest I'm not even really interested in her.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Don't feed who? One of the only guys here who has PROOF of his success? Don't feed the guy who actually goes out? No we need to stop feeding trolls and haters like you, who are probably too scared to go out and do sh*t.
 

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guys, he's 18.

He's hitting on 14 year olds (maybe 15 but I doubt it). Come on this is almost child abuse.

And Elstud, Rock Band is not cool unless you are a god at the game. And besides, I think you should call this girl and let us know what comes of it. It would be hilarious if a 14 year old rejected you.

Also, it's not a good idea to lie to a girl right off the bat. You telling her about your ex? WTF?
 

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Uhh, if he's talking about freshman in high school, am I the only one here that knows it's illegal to do anything to her for 3+ years, depending on the state? Come on, man.

FYI, telling a girl she looks like your ex-girlfriend is not typically a good line.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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HandyAndy said:
:crackup:
You can laugh HandyAndy, but it will not change the fact that you are a chode, who can't approach women. The rest of the post is just people hating even though I got the number, kind of jealous if you ask me. Seriously though, HandyAndy's one of those guys who talks all the crap and gives all the advice, but then when you actually take him out into the field he couldn't do sh*t. Especially since this guy publicly admitted his fear of approaching.
 

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[S]alvatore said:
Can all you negative cvnts fu<k off. What are you doing to try to improve yourselves?
We're using him as an example as what not to do.
 

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Yeah, so in his mindset, don't listen to me if you don't want success with girls since I have proof pull numbers and get interest.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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