FR/Need help: Approaching and number closing is easy, but how do you get lays?

[ElStud]

Well here's my situation. Approaching to me has now become like super easy. I think right now I could literally approach almost any chick in any situation. Since there are tons of chicks on the college campus, I approach daily and because there are so many chicks, I rarely approach the same chicks. Today I did a ton of approaches, but since I did so many I can't really remember all of them. And yeah, I got a few numbers closes too, which were easy. But yeah, it's even getting to the point that I'm so real with girls, that there's literally no switch between approach mode and non-approach mode. I'm starting to be more real and genuine in my approaches.

And yeah, at this point in the game, approaching and number closing for me is easy. With number closing, all you really have to do is get a genuine good vibe with a girl and LEAD saying something like "We got to hang out or something. Do you want to call me?" to where non interested chicks will make an excuse but interested chicks will say "Yes". Haha, there was one real good set today where a girl said yes and I was even like "Alright, well, you can get started on your book while I find my address book". The set was so genuine that even AFTER I got the number, I still talked to her for a little while after because I was actually interested in her and not just the outcome.

But yeah, like I said earlier, approaching and number closing is easy and I basically want to know how I could start moving onto bigger things like kissing and actually getting lays. Earlier today I was thinking to even stop approaching, just for the fact that I wasn't really getting anything out of most of the sets, good or bad. So I want to know, how can you get actual lays in college?

 

[r0cky]

You must create attraction, then comfort, then you can seduce them to bed.
If you've number closed and the chicks are answering the phone then you've created attraction, now you can go int comfort with rapport and kino.

 

[shaunuk]

i think you're trying to move too fast with your interactions sometimes. Getting lays gets easier as your personality, charm, confidence etc grows. But getting to this stage isn't really a matter of 'how you get lays'.

Slow down a bit mate. You shouldn't be focussed on getting a kiss close in public 15 mins after you've started talking to her...not really. You need to build attraction, AND comfort, and just take things from there. This will often involve getting a number if it's just a casual social situation or somewhere in public. Then, work your game.

Meet up with her. Whether the meet up ACTUALLY happens is somewhat an indicator of whether she's interested. Girls with low interest of weak comfort, weak rapport etc. will generally flake. Keep running your game when you meet, be chill, escalate and keep going.

Sooner or later if you're playing it right you're gonna go from meeting--->building attraction+comfort+etc--->'hanging out'--->escalating--->fvcking

most girls will put up some kind of last minute resistance, some which you can get through and some which can be broken by "we'll do oral +fingering this time and sex next time" (in my experience).

So there is no "how to" as such, it's a matter of having a girl attracted to you and having enough comfort etc. for her to do it...and how do you do this...you already know the answer: GAME. You just need to apply it properly mate.

You're in college, don't waste this valuable time, you're young and it should be some of the best time of your life.

So where can you meet these girls? Yeah, in public, and...on campus, in your halls of residence (what do they call em in the states? Dorms? ), at PARTIES and when you're old enough...bars and nightclubs.

And how the FCUK do you get to these parties and meet people in social situations? FRIENDS AND SOCIAL CIRCLES. These are CRUCIAL. Make friends mate. This sh1t should be obvious man. Always be making friends, expanding who you can hang out with...and just look what happens? Girls everywhere around you..."Oh I'm hanging with lots of friends later..."....GIRLS.

"Oh look I'm flirting with all these many many girls I'm meeting...Damn I'm getting phone numbers...These chicks are starting to dig me..."

and you start getting lays setup, plates start spinning, girls liking you gets you even more social proof. And to some extent it only gets better.

You can see where this is going...

See? Get on it!!

 

[ready123]

first of all, good job. for all the hating you get on this site, at least you've gotten your approaching down to the point where you have no AA

that's an awesome accomplishment

on that note, what are you doing with those numbers? what happens when you call them back and try to meet up?

 

[daygameguy]

Well here's my situation. Approaching to me has now become like super easy. I think right now I could literally approach almost any chick in any situation. Since there are tons of chicks on the college campus, I approach daily and because there are so many chicks, I rarely approach the same chicks. Today I did a ton of approaches, but since I did so many I can't really remember all of them. And yeah, I got a few numbers closes too, which were easy. But yeah, it's even getting to the point that I'm so real with girls, that there's literally no switch between approach mode and non-approach mode. I'm starting to be more real and genuine in my approaches.

And yeah, at this point in the game, approaching and number closing for me is easy. With number closing, all you really have to do is get a genuine good vibe with a girl and LEAD saying something like "We got to hang out or something. Do you want to call me?" to where non interested chicks will make an excuse but interested chicks will say "Yes". Haha, there was one real good set today where a girl said yes and I was even like "Alright, well, you can get started on your book while I find my address book". The set was so genuine that even AFTER I got the number, I still talked to her for a little while after because I was actually interested in her and not just the outcome.

But yeah, like I said earlier, approaching and number closing is easy and I basically want to know how I could start moving onto bigger things like kissing and actually getting lays. Earlier today I was thinking to even stop approaching, just for the fact that I wasn't really getting anything out of most of the sets, good or bad. So I want to know, how can you get actual lays in college?

90% of the game is played in comfort. When you see a girl on day 2, and build solid connection and intimacy with her, you will either become her BFF or her BF... getting lays comes later.. first start DATING girls.

 

[ElStud]

Well you mention make friends, but how dude? My current friends from my High School I didn't really even start chilling with until junior year really and we knew each other from Track, mostly. Now we're like good friends.

Yeah, just where exactly are you getting hung up? Do you not get past the first phone call; or are they ejecting at the invite to your bed?

lol well to be honest, I hardly ever call the numbers because most girls will flake. Haha, I've noticed when asking a girl to meet up, most of them will say yes but never show up. I myself have started this whole 15 minute system. If I'm still waiting for the girl a good 15 minutes after the time she was suppose to show, I just forget about her and do something else.

 

[shaunuk]

Well you mention make friends, but how dude? My current friends from my High School I didn't really even start chilling with until junior year really and we knew each other from Track, mostly. Now we're like good friends.

Man, you're a fresher, everyone is EAGER to fit in and make friends, the first month of uni is when people are the most open, especially to meeting new people etc etc. You're staying in uni accomodation right? Well then make friends there man. What course are you studying? Well make friends on your course man...you see what I'm saying..

But how? uni only started a few weeks ago didn't it? (different dates in the UK) Introduce yourself to people...this is really easy. You're just like, "hey, how's it going? cool, I'm Shaun, what's your name? ah cool, Mia? that's an interesting name. what major you doing? yeah cool I'm doing chemistry too................................". Just be cool. Don't have to be cracking onto everyone straight away.

but seriously, when you're dumped into a new place with people of all kinds, making friends should come naturally. Be one of the boys, chat your arse off about football with them. Come on you know this sh1t man.

 

[Snow Plowman]

Good to see your still out there doing it up...

In my opinion there is no set time...just go out there and enjoy the interactions for what they are...go through the motions of meeting to close. So what if there flaking, you'll have about 40 #s in your phone that you'll be cycling through, so if one doesn't show up, you meet up with another and just keep going through your rotation...

I won't mention any other parts such as connection, escalation, etc...because I've dropped all those terms...just express yourself and close...you set the tone and lead, so you pick when you want to do everything...

 

[Aragon034]

Well you mention make friends, but how dude? My current friends from my High School I didn't really even start chilling with until junior year really and we knew each other from Track, mostly. Now we're like good friends.


lol well to be honest, I hardly ever call the numbers because most girls will flake. Haha, I've noticed when asking a girl to meet up, most of them will say yes but never show up. I myself have started this whole 15 minute system. If I'm still waiting for the girl a good 15 minutes after the time she was suppose to show, I just forget about her and do something else.

lets put that math into action.

T = Total # of #'s you get.
t = Total # of #'s you actually call.
tm = Total # of #'s you call and get a meet with
F = Average chance you think a girl will flake
f = Actual meets you were supposed to have that they flaked
r = the random chance that they just are late or have good reason
M = times you actually met up.

t = 75% of T
F = 75% of T
tm = 50% of t
f = 50% of tm
M = 50% of tm
r = 10%
So lets say you have 100 numbers

T = 100
t = 75
tm = 75 x 75% = 56.25
f = 56.25 x 50% = 28.125
M = 28.125 x F = 21 x r = 19

So out of 100 number closes, 19 of them made it to teh first meet. 25 of which you never even called. (and from what i gather, the # is probably higher)

Forgive me, but a 19% success rate for meeting with a girl is not good in my eyes. i won't push the math any further since i'm not as good at decimals as i used to be.

See that long ass post Shaunuk wrote? Take it to heart, it's great advice and it's exactly what i would do if i were in your situation.

Good luck mate, and i hope you reach your goals.