"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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FR: need advice - complicated situation

utax

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So last night I went on Jane's birthday party. I was invited by Jane's friend HB6, she sent me text message and invited me.
As far as I know she digs me, but I am not attracted to her. Maybe only as a friend. :) I never gave her signals that I like her, though I haven't LJBFed her either. So I was at the party and there was other 2 girls HB9 and HB8. HB6, HB8 and HB9 are the best friends. I was knew both these girls, I knew HB9 quite well - she turned out ultimate AW. But I wasn't too familiar with HB8. Both HB8 and HB9 knew that HB6 digs me.

So I sat in the room and was talking with these HB's and some guys. We were drinking tequila, etc. So HB6 asked if she could sit on my lap besauce there were no chair to sit on. I was ok with that. We talked, a little bit of flirt, I did some C&F(I cannot control it, I do it even on girls I am not attracted to).
After some time she left to another room. So HB8 came and sat by me. We were just talking, even no flirt etc., when the HB6 came in, she saw as and looked upset. After some time she came in again and looked even more upset. Then she took her bag and left the party. HB9 tried to stop her, but she was too upset. She was very jelous on her friend HB8. I think it was stupid.
Later I started to flirt with HB8, but she felt bad about HB6. She felt he was cheating HB6. It was about 3 AM. So I said, I should go to bed and I asked if she would come with me. She said OK! So we were sleeping huged and I started to rub her stomach and back, etc. She liked it and didn't stop me, so I went for kiss. She stoped me and said it's unfair to HB6.
So I started over rubing here, brushing her hair with fingers etc. So I went for kiss and we kissed, it was great tongue action, etc, actually she was really good. I took off her bra and started to massage her tits. So she hug her legs around my leg and started to grind her pvssy against it.(we were in clothes) I started to massage her pvssy with my hand and she was really enyoing it so she started to open my pants and slowly reaching for my d1ck. I did the same and tried to reach my hand in her pants to her pvssy. I was unable to do it so I tried to take her pants off. THEN SHE STOPPED ME! and said she can't do it to HB6. so we fell asleep. in the morning she felt very guilty about what we did. and she was very scared about what will she say to HB6 when she meets her on monday. HB6 sent her some text messages, that she won't be able to forgive her.

So my question is what to say HB8 and how to acctualy lay her? Do I have a chance? She said it was compleatly her fault and I wasn't guilty.
 

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Grey Fox

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No fancy tricks, no strategies its now move or fall. Ask her out, she will disreguard HB6 in the end, but move slow. Like if she needs to talk, suggest doing it at a coffee joint or somewhere pleasant. It would probably make her feel better since she is actually talking face to face with someone who isn't screaming at her from afar with text messages. She is in an emotionally rocky place, she'll look for the easiest way out that will offer her comfort and stability....just something you should keep in mind.

-Grey Fox
 

CaptainObvious#1

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Originally posted by theSpeculator
When you tried to kiss her and she said it would be unfair to HB6, you should have said to her, "But is it fair to you?"
No.
What he did was right. You don't say anything, just nod and then try again later.
If you ask a question like that you will most likely end up in some stupid conversation about loyalty and sh!t then end up in the friendzone because you just took the first step in being an emotional tampon.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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