"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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FR: My interactions today.

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This'll be updated over the day, but here's basically going to be any interactions I felt where important today. And yes, it'll basically be like a journal of those interactions. So here we go...

So I was standing at the lunch line and Jake, a friend of my mine who's a Freshman, and 3 girls who were also Freshman where in the line. I mainly gamed one of the girls. I don't know remember well what I said, but I do remember creating this story about how she was at my house and she played along. So basically, I just heavy kino the girl, clawing her and stuff and she's not rejecting at all. Eventually, I said something like "Your so cute I'm going to adopt you as my little sister". And eventually I just hugged the chick. It didn't really go anywhere from there really because I was just scared of number closing.
And the next...
This is going to REALLY be summary but I'll basically tell you guys what happened. So Iw as walking, walking through the lunch room and I open this set. Somewhere early in the set I remember one of the girls saying "Hey, you're in the play with me" and yeah throughout the whole set I basically just have conversation with them. I remember asking them for their names and then at one point, I "cold read" in essence, 3 of the girls and at what point I say that I could see one of the girls as a lesbian. Then I start talking about how she'd be my wingwoman at the mall and the other girls are cracking up, but the girl who I called a lesbian is constantly like "I'm not a lesbian!". At one point I'm like "Prove it, like if you touched this girl over here would you get aroused?" and she's like "No" then the other girl is like "No, I find her disgusting". All while this happening, I'm intensely kino the 2 girls who are by me and they showed no signs of resistance. Fast forward to the end of that set, I say "So what would you girls think if this girl gave me her number?" then the other friends were like "It'd be awesome!" but the girl who I closed said "Well I have a boyfriend" and that was that. Eventually I say bye to the girls and leave the set.
 
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"Your so cute I'm going to adopt you as my little sister"

that's lame. and why were you scared of asking for her number? you never seemed scared before (even when a rejection was imminent :crackup: ). Also, i think maybe you should try asking for an email as well. They're sometimes more open to that so it might be a little easier to hook up later if the feel like they know you first (i.e. via contact through email first then phone call).

ALSO, don't come too strong with the kino too soon. It could creep out someone you just met. Remember she could just be trying to be nice.
 

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ezily said:
"Your so cute I'm going to adopt you as my little sister"

that's lame. and why were you scared of asking for her number? you never seemed scared before (even when a rejection was imminent :crackup: ). Also, i think maybe you should try asking for an email as well. They're sometimes more open to that so it might be a little easier to hook up later if the feel like they know you first (i.e. via contact through email first then phone call).

ALSO, don't come too strong with the kino too soon. It could creep out someone you just met. Remember she could just be trying to be nice.
Like if any other line, it's only lame if YOU think it's lame and the girl apparently didn't think it was lame. About kino, kino will show how comfortable the girl is with you. If a girl is just being nice, she's probably going to reject the kino, because if she's just being nice, that means she's not sexually comfortable with you. But if she isn't rejecting kino, that's good, because that means she's comfortable with you and you can escalate things with her.
 

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everything you say is incorrect but im sure you can justify it

you dont know anything

stop telling yourself you do so maybee you can move forward

it's only lame if YOU think it's lame
how did you come to this conclusion?

If a girl is just being nice, she's probably going to reject the kino
how did you come to this conclusion?


the zen story i posted in another thread is perfect for you
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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alright, i have another idea for you... (im assuming, dont kill me, lmk if im wrong...) most of the girls you post the FR's about you dont have much previous interaction with. well especially at school, a place where you see people alot, you should take your time at trying to pick people up. personally i would wait a week after i met a girl to ask for a number... you should just build rapport to that point. make her like you in the comfortable environment of school before you show that you wanna hang out with her outside of the school (getting her number and making plans). as a fact i can tell you that it works. i met a girl last semester and we always talked in class for a good 2 weeks. then one day i casually asked her if hse wanted to go to a movie, she said yes, and i got her number. that was that and it was really simple. you just have to be patient. at least that is my view of it... now this is for school. obviously when you are in a store or just meet someone at a random place (and wont see them daily/ever again) then you have to number close if you plan to build anything...

but i hope you can understand what im saying.
 

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Cr1msonKing said:
I've used this and its always worked... by work I mean the girls get a little more comfortable, they don't think I'm just trying to get in their pants, and they go nooo, and throw themselves at me, have you guys ever Field tested it before?
Cajun, a professional PUA used that line on a pickup show and it worked.

It only works if she shows you interest first though...
 

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saber said:
everything you say is incorrect but im sure you can justify it

you dont know anything

stop telling yourself you do so maybee you can move forward



how did you come to this conclusion?



how did you come to this conclusion?


the zen story i posted in another thread is perfect for you
We're not going here again. Got nothing nice or useful to say shut it. How did I come upon the conclusion? Well the girl OBVIOUSLY didn't think it was lame and for you guys saying it was creepy, that's BS, because if she REALLY thought it was creepy, she wouldn't of been comfortable and would've rejected kino, but that obviously didn't happen. Haha, you guys are true haters though, when I DO get interest from girls you're still hating. It's funny half the people who posted in this topic are ignored(With me adding saber to the list), it really goes to show how many haters and trolls there are in this forum. Truth is, I could get numbers(Wait I already did) and get laid and you guys would STILL be hatin'. The only guys who posted in this thread who actually probably know what they're talking about are CrimsonKing and ChrizZ.

Cajun, a professional PUA used that line on a pickup show and it worked.

It only works if she shows you interest first though...
Well she was definitely showing interest. I mean in my mind, if a girl is comfortable enough with you, for you to put your arm around her and hug her, she's definitely interested. Kino is probably the ultimate test of if she's REALLY into you or not. You can tell if a girls just being polite if she acts interested, but resist kino. None of these girls resisted kino. I mean truly think about it though, would you let someone you weren't comfortable touch you? I know the hell I wouldn't.

Things are moving forward for the Viper though. Since girls are usually comfortable with kino, all I got to do to get further now is do more risque escalation, like touching more sexual areas to REALLY see how comfortable the girls are.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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all i can say iz ur watchin 2 many of those videos
the line where u said "Your so cute I'm going to adopt you as my little sister"
is from show called " In The VIP" LOLZ !!! yo man if u keep on watchin 2 many of these pickup vids u gonna become a robot, whaz most important iz inner game! and judgin from that u got none or lil :p
 

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AznPlaya said:
all i can say iz ur watchin 2 many of those videos
the line where u said "Your so cute I'm going to adopt you as my little sister"
is from show called " In The VIP" LOLZ !!! yo man if u keep on watchin 2 many of these pickup vids u gonna become a robot, whaz most important iz inner game! and judgin from that u got none or lil :p

The show is called keys to the vip!

"In the vip" is a porn site...
 

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AznPlaya said:
all i can say iz ur watchin 2 many of those videos
the line where u said "Your so cute I'm going to adopt you as my little sister"
is from show called " In The VIP" LOLZ !!! yo man if u keep on watchin 2 many of these pickup vids u gonna become a robot, whaz most important iz inner game! and judgin from that u got none or lil :p
Well no offense man, but you need to learn how to spell correctly before you give advice. And the whole statement "whaz most important iz inner game! and judgin from that u got none or lil" is overall stupid, because inner game isn't something you can tell by words. All I know is I'm confident and the girls aren't rejecting kino.
 

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Well no offense man, but you need to learn how to spell correctly before you give advice. And the whole statement "whaz most important iz inner game! and judgin from that u got none or lil" is overall stupid, because inner game isn't something you can tell by words. All I know is I'm confident and the girls aren't rejecting kino.
Both is important.

You need strong inner game because women will test your frame mercilessly if they can sense the smallest sign of insecurity or incongruency.

Outer game is also very important though. You have to be able to read social interactions and you have to know exactly what to say and when to say it...
 

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ChrizZ said:
Both is important.

You need strong inner game because women will test your frame mercilessly if they can sense the smallest sign of insecurity or incongruency.

Outer game is also very important though. You have to be able to read social interactions and you have to know exactly what to say and when to say it...
I agree with the inner part, but not so much with the "you have to know exactly what to say and when to say it..." because it's not really a matter of what you say, it's a matter of what your sub-communicating and what your overall mindset is. I've heard of real good guys literally opening girls licking their faces and still get the lay. See by worrying about words, you're thinking too logically about the game and obviously when it comes to woman, things aren't logical.
 

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1) I know lots of girls whom I've put my arm around, haven't rejected it, and have told their friends later that I'm creepy. Few girls will throw their arm off, but it doesn't mean they're comfortable.

2) Don't involve the friends if you focusing on 1 person's number. If you had said, "you girls are cool, give me your numbers," the one you were trying to close would have no choice but to go along with their friends (who prob would have handed it over). Then, you throw away the two useless ones and call the hot one.

I do have a question for you.

How many people are in your school/graduating class? I had a small school and word got around. If you got rejected by a lot of girls (playing the numbers game), people would know and your social proof would go down. Make sure you don't have some bad reputation that you haven't heard about.
 

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Flabbergasped? said:
1) I know lots of girls whom I've put my arm around, haven't rejected it, and have told their friends later that I'm creepy. Few girls will throw their arm off, but it doesn't mean they're comfortable.

2) Don't involve the friends if you focusing on 1 person's number. If you had said, "you girls are cool, give me your numbers," the one you were trying to close would have no choice but to go along with their friends (who prob would have handed it over). Then, you throw away the two useless ones and call the hot one.

I do have a question for you.

How many people are in your school/graduating class? I had a small school and word got around. If you got rejected by a lot of girls (playing the numbers game), people would know and your social proof would go down. Make sure you don't have some bad reputation that you haven't heard about.
In response to 1, that could just be YOU and have nothing to do with actually putting your arm around a girl. I mean really if girls are saying creepy, than that's because your sub-communicating something that makes them think that. Adding to that, a number of the girls I'm kino are showing definite interest and definitely "don't" see me as creepy and if they do, I know, because they're not showing interest and in that case I just move on to the next set. I see it like that, say theoretically I opened 7 sets that DIDN'T find the arm thing creepy and then I approach 1 set that does. I'm not going to bothered by it cause it's like "What's wrong with you?". I don't even analyze it, I just move on to the next set. See my thing is, good or bad, I don't care how the girl is reacting as long as I'm having a decent time with her.

Two, I pretty much agree with. But about that last paragraph, I don't even know how many people are in the graduating class. And I really don't care about reputation(Even though I do have a good one), so I don't got much to say to that. But truly I doubt that it's going to get you a bad rep if you get constantly rejected most people probably wouldn't care and if they DO care, they're probably mean and not the kind of people you'd want to hang with anyways. And if a person even SPREADS that kind of BS around, you know there's something wrong with them. But generally lol girls don't even remember the guys they rejected and you could even get rejected by a girl one day and get the number of that same girl the next day. In the end, I think if that happened at your school, the person who got rejected did more than that and in the end, reputation isn't something you should really let bother you.
 

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ElStud said:
See my thing is, good or bad, I don't care how the girl is reacting as long as I'm having a decent time with her.
That is your whole problem right there.
 

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