FR: Lavalife prospect.

[Luke Skywalker]

She's Black, from Jamaica, and has a 3 year old son, and despite the fact she wanted to meet me, I changed my mind.

I dont know what's the point in going out with a single mother, I'm not going to go after a 3 year old boy's mom, this is sick, NEXT.

My phone performance was * stelllar * this time:

1) She asked me the why I was on the internet dating thing: I answered the canned line.

2) She asked me if I meet people: I answered, I meet lots of people (although that's a lie).

3) She asked me about my business - I said I was successful, and that it was exciting and all that BS.

4) Made the conversation short - and closed for a date within 5 minutes of the talk to avoid the 'friendzone'.

5) Incrimented my display value by putting up screens about not being interested in single mothers, so if I do call her back saying "I changed my mind", she may be more interested.
(although I really meant that part --> thus perfecting the performance - if she's a mother, that means she has too look sexy enough for guys to fvck her, and what's wrong banging some black girl with a condom (I'd pay for a baby-sitter and motel, right?).

Great - I impressed someone I wasn't interested in. Great practise though.

 

[Desdinova]

I'm one of the few people here who like commenting on FRs... Where the hell is Shezz when you need him? Oh yeah, he's out sarging

I dont know what's the point in going out with a single mother, I'm not going to go after a 3 year old boy's mom, this is sick, NEXT.

After reading all your other posts, this is the first intelligent thing you've done.

2) She asked me if I meet people: I answered, I meet lots of people (although that's a lie).

Turn it into a "truth" and go meet some new people.

3) She asked me about my business - I said I was successful, and that it was exciting and all that BS.

What is lying going to accomplish here? She'll find out sooner or later that you're full of 5hit.

4) Made the conversation short - and closed for a date within 5 minutes of the talk to avoid the 'friendzone'.

You have the method right, but the reason wrong. Talking on the phone a long time doesn't necessarily put you in the "friend zone". Keeping conversation short on the phone gives you lots of opportunities for conversation on a date. If you already know each other by talking on the phone, the date will be boring and you'll have nothing to talk about.

Great - I impressed someone I wasn't interested in. Great practise though.

You're going to run into trouble if your goal is to impress people. If anything, the women should be impressing you. The SM obviously didn't, and you made a good choice there.

This is all about the choices you make. You're the only one who is in control of your world. A woman's opinion or "impression" of you shouldn't really matter.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

What is lying going to accomplish here? She'll find out sooner or later that you're full of 5hit.

Ok, this is based on the seduction website - when meeting someone initially, whether it is to get laid, get a girlfriend or a female friend, whatever, you always, always, always, have to put a positive spin on everything.

In the beginning stages, people just want to know more about you, and get some insights into who I am and what I do - they don't actually care about whether or not I am successful, but I'm not going to go over-bragging, just enough so that nobody is going to start getting 'concerned' of have thoughts.

Now, what I said was not lying - it is a positive spin - so if I say I'm meeting clients - sure, since I started the business, I've meet lots of people, (but made few deals in proportion). Sure, I've shown homes and made deals (but a few of them fallen though and cancelled). See, you dont have to mention what's between the brackets, right?

You're going to run into trouble if your goal is to impress people. If anything, the women should be impressing you. The SM obviously didn't, and you made a good choice there.

My goal is too look like a normal guy without raising RED FLAGS, which I tend to habitually do. I impress a girl by simply NOT RAISING A RED FLAG I DONT HAVE TO RAISE. DO NOT RAISE RED-FLAGS WITH PROSPECTS - LET THEM RAISE RED FLAGS WITH YOU - and you dump them when they do.

I didn't tell her I'm some virgin guy living with my mom and totally dependent and haven't got it altogether and I'm bumming around internet dating sites looking for a lay --- if you want to get a click on the phone, that's what you'd have to say. Now, I'm not that obvious, but you have to use tact when you are on the phone.

This is all about the choices you make. You're the only one who is in control of your world. A woman's opinion or "impression" of you shouldn't really matter.

That's right. And as I'm learning to act like a normal guy that's independent and in charge of my life (although it may not necesarily be the case here at home), then that's what counts. Hopefully I can get my feet wet with some experience with women before I actually work on my own life out of getting tired of the novelty of dating and seducting.

 

[Desdinova]

Ok, this is based on the seduction website - when meeting someone initially, whether it is to get laid, get a girlfriend or a female friend, whatever, you always, always, always, have to put a positive spin on everything.

Positive spin does not equal lying. If you're referring to David D's technique, it was to tell an obvious, overexaggerated lie. She asks what you do for a living, tell her you're a human crash test dummy, and as a result, over 60% of your innerds are made of stainless steel. If she pushes for a real answer, tell her "okay, okay, it's actually 65%.

This is a fun, harmless way to wave the fact that you sell popcorn at the movies or whatever it is you do. By the time she finds out what you really do, she won't care because it's your personality that counts, not your job.

If you don't wanna tell her you live with your parents, call your parents roomies. Hell, tell her you live on Jupiter with a family of cucumber people.

My goal is too look like a normal guy without raising RED FLAGS

Here's a sad reality: normal guys don't get laid. You have to be better than the guy sitting at the table next to you. Here's all you need to know: be your BEST self. Let your sense of humor shine, be enthusiastic when you speak, and don't be afraid to go for what you want. Quit suppressing all of these qualities and bring them out for, not just for her, but for EVERYONE to see.