"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

Read more...

FR: How did I get make outs with seemingly low interest level?

Eternal_water

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 12, 2012
Messages
899
Reaction score
51
Ok so I did something I've not done before the other night. I went to a club stone cold sober and I went by myself. I made out with 3 girls but all 3 seemed to have very low interest level.

Girl A was essentially a drunk club w***e. Every guy could just go up to her and start grinding on her and she would respond. I grinded on girl A at various points through the night, made out with her 3 or 4 (full tongue contact) times through the night, got my hands right down her top and around her bear breasts many many times and fingered her on the dance floor. But every time she seems like she is bored after not too long and goes on to another guy. I come back have more goes with her through out the night.

Girl A is friends with girl C. I try dancing up to and grinding with girl C a few times but she looks at me like I'm something she stepped in and tells me to leave her alone. I do so. For now.

Girl B: I dance up to her, do a bit of grinding and get a very positive response. I take her hand twirl her around to face me, take her other hand so that Im holding both and start dancing with her properly with her facing me. She pretty much avoids eye contact the whole time. I move in for the kiss and we make out, full tongue contact again. But she pulls away after 20 - 30 seconds each time. I make out with her like this about 3 times. Then her friend (who is looking daggers at me) drags her to the bar. I follow. I keep touching her up at the bar and get good responses. Then she goes off to the loo all the time avoiding eye contact. I can hardly follow her in there so I move on. Have some more fun on girl A.
I later saw girl B snogging some other guy all night long.


I had another grind on girl B just to amuse myself and all of a sudden its on. I do the hand twirl again to get her facing me and instantly we are making out and this time its a full on tongue war. I take her leg and place it around my waist and hold it there. She is touching up my but with her hand and then puts her hand up the back of my shirt and starts feeling around.
This make out goes on for about 3-4 minutes. Then Girl A appears out of nowhere and pulls her to the ground, they literally both end up lying on the floor. After that, Girl B doesn't want to know me anymore again.

Girl A was below average looks wise but still f**kable. Girls B and C were both really hot!! I never actually said a word to any of them all night.


How did I get these make outs with such apparent low interest levels?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

Read more...

Mike32ct

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 22, 2007
Messages
8,408
Reaction score
5,170
Location
Eastern Time Zone where it's always really late
Awesome job.

But to answer your question, sometimes you just meet her minimum looks/type standard. So it's enough for a makeout or other types of fooling around, but not necessarily enough for a full close. In other words, you start out doing quite well with a chick and sometimes you "hit a wall" particularly with some hotter ones. It's totally ok. Go as far as you can and enjoy it for what it is.

The other problem may have been that there were three of them. No doubt that at least one might have done more with you, but she didn't want to look TOO slutty in front of her friends.

Great night though.
 

Eternal_water

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 12, 2012
Messages
899
Reaction score
51
Mike32ct said:
Awesome job.

But to answer your question, sometimes you just meet her minimum looks/type standard. So it's enough for a makeout or other types of fooling around, but not necessarily enough for a full close. In other words, you start out doing quite well with a chick and sometimes you "hit a wall" particularly with some hotter ones. It's totally ok. Go as far as you can and enjoy it for what it is.

The other problem may have been that there were three of them. No doubt that at least one might have done more with you, but she didn't want to look TOO slutty in front of her friends.

Great night though.
Ok yeah that makes sense. I'll keep going at it in the gym then.
Yeah that was a great night by my standards. I've never made out with 3 girls in one night before.
 

Mike32ct

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 22, 2007
Messages
8,408
Reaction score
5,170
Location
Eastern Time Zone where it's always really late
You are absolutely on the right track. You WILL get laid. I have no doubt.

Later on, you can narrow your focus on ONE high interest chick that is alone or separate from her friends and pull her. At that point, you might want to even tone down the making out and leave her wanting to do more outside of the club.

But for now, keep working out and boosting your confidence with makeouts and other fun club play. It's an important stepping stone.

It's like a progression...

Beginner - No makeouts. Just talk and possibly grind.

Intermediate - Many heavy makeouts and grinds with multiple chicks

Advanced - Limited grinding and making out with ONE chick. Then pull for BJ or ONS.
 

Mr Wright

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 19, 2010
Messages
980
Reaction score
243
Location
London, UK
Making out is just what some girls do, they give them out like hugs. There will be a fair few girls who will make out with you after about 30 seconds...then actually not go home with you lol
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

Read more...

Top