"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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FR: HB8.5 @ Borders...

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Approach 1:

i was at borders today just looking around...there was this cute ass girl HB8.5 that walked through the magazine section...i saw her sit down reading magazines by herself at the coffee shop inside borders...i couldnt grab my balls to approach her...I was trying to think of openers i read from Neil Strauss book "The Game" i had been reading earlier...since she was reading magazines i thought id grab GQ and ask her for an opinion on clothes or something...and then when i was finally telling myself to have some balls and just do it ...

this guy walked up to her and she went to sit with him...young looking guy about 19 maybe with high school clothes and slanted baseball cap and all she looked about 24 probably with her but then i still could have gotten the number while she was alone and left...had so much time...she was sitting by herself for a good 20 minutes.

Result: Opportunity missed because i hesitated like a dumbass and forgot about the "3 second rule". Unfortunately that was my only approach for the day.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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it sounds like maybe she was with her boyfriend anyway. Asking out girls with boyfriends is a waste of time, imo. On the other hand, he could've been her brother or something.


Unfortunately that was my only approach for the day.
hint: It's only an approach when you actually talk to her.
 

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first of all, don't you know women go to places like that so they CAN get picked up?

do you think it that it's just a considence that there are always semi attractive intelligent women always sitting in places like Borders and BArnes and Noble?

While you were sitting there debating on how to talk to her, she was sitting there, pretending to be interested in a magazine saying "when is someone going talk to me"


it doesn't matter what you say, she isn't listening anyway. my gosh guys. All she cares about is you had the balls to talk to her... 10 mintues from now she isn't going to remember a word you said.

If a woman wanted to read a book, she can do it in the comfort of her own home.. Borders and places like it is the PERFECT spot for women be hit on, by men they want to be hit on by, without coming off as slutty. It's the new "Club".

yeah, you blew it.. but suck it up and swing next time instead of taking strike 3
 

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How is it an approach if you don't say a word to her? Tell me this. I would like to know. If this is the case, then I approach everyone I walk by on the street. lol.
 

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This is like an esposide of Sienfield...how can you approach a woman, if you techincally didn't approach her?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Ken785 said:
Approach 1: Result: Opportunity missed because i hesitated like a dumbass and forgot about the "3 second rule". Unfortunately that was my only approach for the day.
at least you know what you did wrong
 

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Ken785 said:
Approach 1:

i was at borders today just looking around...there was this cute ass girl HB8.5 that walked through the magazine section...i saw her sit down reading magazines by herself at the coffee shop inside borders...i couldnt grab my balls to approach her...I was trying to think of openers i read from Neil Strauss book "The Game" i had been reading earlier...since she was reading magazines i thought id grab GQ and ask her for an opinion on clothes or something...and then when i was finally telling myself to have some balls and just do it ...

this guy walked up to her and she went to sit with him...young looking guy about 19 maybe with high school clothes and slanted baseball cap and all she looked about 24 probably with her but then i still could have gotten the number while she was alone and left...had so much time...she was sitting by herself for a good 20 minutes.

Result: Opportunity missed because i hesitated like a dumbass and forgot about the "3 second rule". Unfortunately that was my only approach for the day.
You didn't approach at all, this doesn't count and doesn't really deserve a thread here.

You read "The Game". A lot of people have, it's not that great in terms of actual methods and techniques. But if you are a fan of Neil Strauss, maybe you would be interested in the Style Life Challenge.

I seriously recommend it, and it will help you blast away you approach anxiety.
 

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backbreaker said:
first of all, don't you know women go to places like that so they CAN get picked up?

do you think it that it's just a considence that there are always semi attractive intelligent women always sitting in places like Borders and BArnes and Noble?

While you were sitting there debating on how to talk to her, she was sitting there, pretending to be interested in a magazine saying "when is someone going talk to me"


it doesn't matter what you say, she isn't listening anyway. my gosh guys. All she cares about is you had the balls to talk to her... 10 mintues from now she isn't going to remember a word you said.

If a woman wanted to read a book, she can do it in the comfort of her own home.. Borders and places like it is the PERFECT spot for women be hit on, by men they want to be hit on by, without coming off as slutty. It's the new "Club".

yeah, you blew it.. but suck it up and swing next time instead of taking strike 3
Wow, that was the nicest post I've read in while on this site. Thank you for putting things in perspective. I need to get out more.
 

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I make sure I stop by barnes and noble at least once a week. I'm a history book fanatic and even though it's a tad bit out my way, I don't mind making a stop by the ole barnes and noble... I don't go woman hunting, but I've hooked up with a couple of girls out of there over the years. when i'm not in a hurry I wll get a newspaper and take it out to their patio, get some starbucks and releax, I will usually run into someone.

but it's just common sense...
 

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i couldnt grab my balls to approach her...I was trying to think of openers i read from Neil Strauss book "The Game" i had been reading earlier...since she was reading magazines i thought id grab GQ and ask her for an opinion on clothes or something...

Opening lines and that junk don't work,it's best that you 'wing it' and come up with something then and there.

and then when i was finally telling myself to have some balls and just do it ...

Exactly,after a couple of seconds after making eye contact just move in.

Result: Opportunity missed because i hesitated like a dumbass and forgot about the "3 second rule".

It's alright,don't beat yourself over it,live and learn.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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blinkwatt said:
i couldnt grab my balls to approach her...I was trying to think of openers i read from Neil Strauss book "The Game" i had been reading earlier...since she was reading magazines i thought id grab GQ and ask her for an opinion on clothes or something...

Opening lines and that junk don't work,it's best that you 'wing it' and come up with something then and there.

and then when i was finally telling myself to have some balls and just do it ...

Exactly,after a couple of seconds after making eye contact just move in.

Result: Opportunity missed because i hesitated like a dumbass and forgot about the "3 second rule".

It's alright,don't beat yourself over it,live and learn.
no way i could make eye contact with her because she was at the end table next to the wall back facing me and head down too so i wouldnt swing around inside the coffeeshop. and i only use lines as ice breakers..or subjects to start coversations besides the boring ususal "where you from?" "whats your name?" "whats your job?" sooo boring! i relealize that now...you gotta get um excited man not interview them on their stats because eventually they get bored after you run out of questions...like what happened to me and this one hb7 i used to date.
 

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...uh..how about saying what's on your mind? Ever thought about that? the reasons pickup lines don't work is becuase they aren't sincere.. you can't go wrong with being sinsere.. worst case senerio you flatter her

"excuse me, my name is XXXXXX.. tust me when I say I normally don't do this and this seems a little awkward, but I saw you from over there and I couldn't stop looking at you. I'm on my way out of here so I don't have very much time, but I would like to have your phone number so I can setup a date at a later time and place to get to know you a little better"

she's either IN or she's OUT. cut to the freakin chase. Even if she says no, you will feel so much better once you are done... more times than not she will say yes... WORST case senerio, she looks at you and blushes becuase she wasn't expecting someone to be that honest, and says she has a BF or some crap.. which, you then respond to by saying "that's too bad.. well he's a lucky guy, as i am sure he knows. hopefully I can see you around here sometime when I have a little more time on my hands, but as I said I have to get on my way.. take care, and it was a pleasure meeting you"

highlight the word HERE becuse that sets you up in case you come back and she happens to be there.. then you have an excuse to go and sit with her and talk next time.... Always Be Closing baby!!1
 
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