FR: HB Bookstore

[kidkoala]

So I went to the Boston lair infield meeting Saturday. I was mentored by a guy named Puzzler the entire time. Now he runs MM, which I'm not a big fan of just because it seems ungenuine to me. But he still was able to help. The major thing he did was get me out of my comfort zone.

He asked if me or the other guy we were with wanted to do the dating for dummies opener. I was chickening out so the other guy did it first. Then I snapped and I;m like wtf and I did the opener to a very cute girl.

Pretending to read from the book "Hi-How-Are-you?" "What-your-sign"
She laughs and I say this book isn't working is it. So I throw it to the side introduce myself to her and sit down beside her. I was like why would you spend so much money on a book like that haha. Anyways we just vibed a bit. SHe was a gorgeous harvard med student. Instant crush. HAHA. I manage to say a lot of good things. When she mentioned she was a harvard med student: "Our relationship would never work out because you would use a lot of big words that I couldn't understand." HAHA

Then I also said "When I;m meeting new people, I like to hear about their passions, so what are yours?" Credit Juggler. I;m really trying to work on my charm and doing so by the Juggler method. SHe wasn't that responsive.

She told me she was studying and was basically saying to go away at one point, but I ignored her and kept on talking . And I also accomplished another goal that Puzzler and Juggler and I all wanted: I SOIed. Telling her she was sexy and she giggled.

Sadly when I tried closing she said she had a boyfriend and I was not persistent enough because I didn't really believe her and I was about to say: "I don't believe you". But i walked away. Gotta work a little more on my persistence and closing ability. But overall I went way out of my comfort zone and talked to a gorgeous chick for 5-10 minutes.

Also I opened a 6 set with a wedding ring asking one of the girls to marry me haha. ANyways hope ppl get some inspiration from this and if they are KBJ to get in the field and start making alot of mistakes.

 

[kidkoala]

100 posts woohoo now I:m a real MAN.

 

[Delta]

"but i ignored her and kept on talking" and "gotta work a little more on my persistence and closing ability"?

ummmm... is persistence the KEY THING here? is the idea that you keep going whether she is interested or not? cuz i've always thought that this is not the goal.

delta

 

[amoka]

100 posts woohoo now I:m a real MAN.

fyi, you're still a Don Juan. You need 300plus to move from that ranking....

 

[danielzxc]

I would say persistence is important for two reasons.

(1) Because sometimes there IS bs to fight your way through, and you can turn the whole thing around.

and

(2) Because persisting in the face of "resistance" probably goes a long in improving your game.

I have had some sales experience, and I found that around about the same time I started getting good at overcoming objections is when I also started closes sales before they even STARTED objecting. Kind of like it taught me to change my style so that I wouldn't even meet resistence further down the line, if you know what I mean.

But I've got to admit, I find it VERY hard to persist with women who don't seem interested.

Btw, what I mean with persisting is persisting in trying to create a spark of attraction or interest, not simply persisting with a series of boring questions or in trying to get a number.

 

[kidkoala]

When I say persistence, I mean charming persistence. That;s that hallmark of the way I want to interact with women. THink "Let's go out at 7:00 on Tuesday" She says: "I have a boyfriend". Then you say: "WEll let's make it 8". Credit ZAN. Its just a way of being charming even if the girl isn't into you and she'll just smile and laugh cuz it is charming. Thats where I want to be eventually.

 

[Cod3r]

Then I also said "When I;m meeting new people, I like to hear about their passions, so what are yours?" Credit Juggler. I;m really trying to work on my charm and doing so by the Juggler method. SHe wasn't that responsive.

How can you get into deep rapport with no general rapport ? That sounds technical, so lets break it down in 'natural' terms... someone dosen't want to talk about their passions with a random person after 2 minutes of conversation. She has no reaL interest in you at this point, why would she open up to you... Save your deep rapport questions after you establish some kind of connection and you see she's invested into you...

Also, a good way to see if she's intereted... she's asking you questions...

A good rule of thumb is to never ask her a question until she asks you one first (in a realistic way). Don't seek rapport until rapport is saught with you as a general rule, if a woman asks you a question its very indicative of interest. If she's just answering your questions, you have no guage only assumption.


-Cod3r

 

[Old School]

Lair?

What is this lair? Just a PUA gathering? That would be great if I had one in my area. Can see how that would help procrastination.

 

[kidkoala]

I dunno how to paste a quote in so: Cod3r:
"How can you get into deep rapport with no general rapport ? That sounds technical, so lets break it down in 'natural' terms... someone dosen't want to talk about their passions with a random person after 2 minutes of conversation. She has no reaL interest in you at this point, why would she open up to you... Save your deep rapport questions after you establish some kind of connection and you see she's invested into you..."

She responds with I don;t know because most girls aren't ready for such a topic and then you talk about your passions. Bam. Showing what you love to do. OR you can just be like: Well I'll go first or something. Then maybe she;ll be more inclined to share. But why not assume rapport and find out what this girls all about. Juggler method is about finding really attractive things in a person. Be an explorer.

Old School: Lairs are places where "aPUAS" gather to be taught by "PUAs". I hate terms like that btw.

 

[Old School]

How would I discover one of the "lairs"? I would benefit from this and thats why I ask.. Chances are there isn't one in my area.

 

[kidkoala]

http://www.bristollair.com/lairlist/ GO THERE