"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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FR: Halloween Party

Pathgen

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So i went to this halloween party and i was having fun. I stayed away from the dance floor because i was a bieng a bit of a *****. I instead played beer pong and flip cup. Then later on in the night i see this decent looking girl flipping through the music on an ipod alone on the dance floor. She sets it to some classical music and i jump in and pretend to dance with her ( i dont know how to dance). We have fun for a few minutes and then i just said **** it (in my head) and went for the kiss. She let me do it once but then afterwards she pulled away and we had this conversation.

Her: Your drunk
Me: Im not that drunk im just drunk *big smile*
Her: well how drunk are you?
Me: Not drunk enough to not know what i am doing, but drunk enough to have fun
Her: I dont even know your name
Me: Its path, yours
Her: Im <insert name here>
Me: haha ok were good then?
Her: i dont know anything about you
Me: Ask ill tell you
Her: Ok are you a virgin
Me: No
Her: ok then (a tone that sounded like a deal breaker in her voice)

After this she doesnt seem disinterested but i was getting a better vibe then before. We were still dancing so i told her i had only been with one other (the truth).

I had fun, im guessing she did. Just thought id post this up because I feel like i messed up somewhere and i want to learn from my mistakes. Thanks guys =D

Edit: Oh somewhere in their she told me i was really handsome and i responded you are pretty also. I knew it was sorta afc but hell i gave it a shot i didnt have a response to that.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Pathgen said:
So i went to this halloween party and i was having fun. I stayed away from the dance floor because i was a bieng a bit of a *****. I instead played beer pong and flip cup. Then later on in the night i see this decent looking girl flipping through the music on an ipod alone on the dance floor. She sets it to some classical music and i jump in and pretend to dance with her ( i dont know how to dance). We have fun for a few minutes and then i just said **** it (in my head) and went for the kiss. She let me do it once but then afterwards she pulled away and we had this conversation.

Her: Your drunk
Me: Im not that drunk im just drunk *big smile*
Her: well how drunk are you?
Me: Not drunk enough to not know what i am doing, but drunk enough to have fun
Her: I dont even know your name
Me: Its path, yours
Her: Im <insert name here>
Me: haha ok were good then?
Her: i dont know anything about you
Me: Ask ill tell you
Her: Ok are you a virgin
Me: No
Her: ok then (a tone that sounded like a deal breaker in her voice)

After this she doesnt seem disinterested but i was getting a better vibe then before. We were still dancing so i told her i had only been with one other (the truth).

I had fun, im guessing she did. Just thought id post this up because I feel like i messed up somewhere and i want to learn from my mistakes. Thanks guys =D

Edit: Oh somewhere in their she told me i was really handsome and i responded you are pretty also. I knew it was sorta afc but hell i gave it a shot i didnt have a response to that.
Interactions like these are usually pointless, you're at a party, you've been drinking and you're not really spitting decent game, don't over-analyse these interactions too much.
 

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Interactions like these are usually pointless, you're at a party, you've been drinking and you're not really spitting decent game, don't over-analyse these interactions too much.
Now that im sober that makes sense lol.
 

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Lust said:
Interactions like these are usually pointless, you're at a party, you've been drinking and you're not really spitting decent game, don't over-analyse these interactions too much.

I can relate....

heck, it happened to me last night
 

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When im at a party, I try not to get drunk. I feel that I can spit intense game when im buzzed, but not past that.

Also, gaming on drunk girls is cakeeeeeeeeeee.. You basically just have to have the balls to approach and escalate.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Pathgen

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Now that it is after the fact i was thinking that what i should have done is taken her somewhere to talk while still being playfull. Like when she said she didn't know me i should have said "lets go somewhere to talk then."

There was a back porch that had nobody on it and it was pretty misty and crazy looking outside here in San Francisco. Thats just my thought though.

I would have made it more challenging for her to extract information from you...instead of saying, "Ask and I'll tell," you could have said something like, " OK, you get one question; then you have to go home with me."
Would you really have said that? That seems way to bold for me id really have to try really hard to keep my composure and pull off a line like that...

Haha i found out she was sober btw >.<. I was the only one drunk apparently she doesn't drink
 

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so you meet a stranger and tell her how many past partners you've had in the first5-10 minutes?????

jeeez thats game for you........

still, GOOD effort on approaching and hitting the kiss.
 

Pathgen

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so you meet a stranger and tell her how many past partners you've had in the first5-10 minutes?????

jeeez thats game for you........

still, GOOD effort on approaching and hitting the kiss.
Dude your totally right i shouldn't have discussed how many i have had it would have been better if i sad thats personal. I didn't even think of that im adding it to my game thanks
 
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