FR: Group of girls at lunch.

[ElStud]

So I was walking around y'know being social, being me and I approached this set at lunch. This is a summary of that approach.

So I think I said "Hey" to the girls and then opened with "So... do any of you girls dance?". Then blah blah, they start talking and I think one of the girls says that she kind of dances. Then I start talking about why I like girls who dance and blah blah blah, I remember one of the girls laughing at something I said at one point. Not long after that, this one dude came into the set and the Danielle girl almost instantly switched her attention to him, but the other girls still had their eyes on me.

So eventually one of the girls asks me if I'm a good dancer and I tell her how I mostly grind. Blah blah, eventually I figure out the names of the girls that table I DIDN'T know. I already knew the Lizzie girl, but I figured out that one of their names was Lauren. The other girl I didn't knows, name was Samantha. After I found out there names I made a joke about this saying something like "Ah, she killed the cycle, both of your names start with L, but her name starts with S, she must feel pretty lonely over there. But she's still cute" and then Lizzie girl is like "She is cute".

So eventually I'm having fun with these girls and try to number close Lizzie girl, but despite interest, she rejects. So I say f*ck it and then keep talking to them a little after that and eventually close the set.

So yeah, that was that set.

 

[Technical1]

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1269678

 

[ElStud]

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1269678

Thanks you just got yourself reported. Now if anyone wants to actually post something on-topic like advice or even constructive criticism, be my guest. But from this point on, trolls and haters will simply be ignored and reported.

 

[Supremo]

"but despite interest, she rejects."

She wasn't interested, or at least, not enough to number close around her friends.

I haven't read any of your infamous FR's before, but how's your isolating? That would've helped immensely.

 

[ezily]

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1269678

that's pretty funny. :crackup:

 

[sam3083]

So, you assume the girl (lizzie) was interested in you becasue she looked at you?

How do you know how she reacts to people she likes? She didn't want you to have her phone number - pretty good sign she wasn't interested, lol.

You should try and establishe a baseline first. Whereby, you see how how a girl reacts to a person she has ambivilent feelings towards. For all you know she could give 'eyes' to everyone, or is 'touchy feely' to everyone, and that if she was interested in you she would actually be all over you.


BTW, I've probably explained 'baselines' really badly, lol

 

[HandyAndy]

yay....an interaction, i got more action talking to my friends than you do approaching.

 

[ezily]

So yeah, that was that set.

but you did nothing. It didn't even seem like they were interested in you and you didn't do anything to make them interested (from what you wrote anyway). Try and switch up your game (C&F works for me) and try not to approach a girl with her friends. I doubt she'd give you her number unless you were really good (which you aren't).

 

[HandyAndy]

So I was walking around y'know being social, being me and I approached this set at lunch. This is a summary of that approach.



So yeah, that was that set.

I notice that in everyone one of your posts you say "theyre interested"... girls having interest in talking to you and having sexual interest with you are 2 completely different things. Most of the sets you open show some interest in talking to you, but not interest in having sex with you, your getting their "interest" all mixed up

 

[ElStud]

lol to you guys if the girl doesn't give the number it's not interest, which is a completely incorrect mindset. Also HandyAndy, approach, then give advice.

 

[HandyAndy]

lol to you guys if the girl doesn't give the number it's not interest, which is a completely incorrect mindset. Also HandyAndy, approach, then give advice.

Lmao, we have the wrong mindset? Ask anyone, they know im correct. Just because I dont approach doesnt mean im a complete idiot, I know a few things. She didnt give you her number becuase SHE WASNT INTERSTED IN YOU. Why dont you understand?

 

[Arizona iced tea]

come on andy, dont you understand? you need at least 100 FR's before you can legally give advice to ElStud

 

[HandyAndy]

come on andy, dont you understand? you need at least 100 FR's before you can legally give advice to ElStud

oops! im sorry, let me go out and interact with the female gender 300 times a month then ill be a god at giving advice :woo:

 

[sam3083]

Argh! I actually thought there was hope for elstud (I didn't realise how far off he was, lol).

How does her, not giving you her number equate with interest?


SHE WASN'T INTERESTED ELSTUD!

 

[Silverant]

Dude ElStud what I think is that you were coming on too sexually. When you're high school, and not at the club, you can't ask for someone's number after you've been sexually flirting with her whole group of friends. That's awkward and sleazy, like you're basically saying "lets have sex some time," and you haven't got enough attraction to offer that message. Take time and make her comfortable with you if you see her regularly at school. Maybe you could have isolated your target first?


Lol why do you guys clown on ELStud so much? Is he so hopeless that you can't help him be a DJ?

 

[Magnatolia]

ElStud, I think I get what you're saying. By interest I assume you mean in the present sense ie. she was interested in the encounter, but that doesn't equate to an interest in getting to know you better.

I was talking to a girl I used to work with, real party girl. And she admitted that even if a girl gives a fake number, it doesn't mean she didn't have fun. Make sense? So a fake number doesn't mean she couldn't stand talking to you. This particular girl gives out fake numbers all the time cos she's not interested in any kind of relationship.

Now I'm no expert at approaching women, but why would you ask girls who are having lunch about dancing? Generally you wait until you're in a place where you can dance.

Where was the samantha girl sitting? Anyway, that came across as you admitting to Lizzie you were attracted to samantha. Then you tried to number close lizzie? She may have been interested but you might have given the impression you were more into samantha.

 

[ElStud]

Yeah exactly. Girls will give numbers and FLAKE ALL THE TIME. Do you really call that interest? I don't think it is. I've talked to tons of interested girls who have declined the numbers. The girls will even be asking me questions and stuff, but when I number close they'll make up an excuse. This girl named Lauren I knew even randomly opened a convo with me, even though she has a boyfriend. Heck, this Taneesha girl I didn't even know opened a convo with me.

Now I'm no expert at approaching women, but why would you ask girls who are having lunch about dancing? Generally you wait until you're in a place where you can dance.

Well basically seduction isn't really a words game. It's more of your whole mindset and overall personality which attracts woman. I myself have said sone pretty crazy sttuff to girls and still had them interested plus I've heard of more experienced guys doing MUCH crazier stuff and still get interest.

I think my biggest problem is, is that I still care about outcome too much and I'm just not having enough fun with the girls in my sets. But yeah, I definitely still care too much for outcome which is a problem.

 

[In Motion]

So, uhm today I was getting gas and this girl walked up to me and asked me what time it is.

She wanted my c0ck.

 

[ElStud]

Hah, a girl could give you guys a number of IOI's, even start flirting with you, but then you assume she's uninterested because she didn't give you the number. That's a great mindset.

 

[Arizona iced tea]

Hah, a girl could give you guys a number of IOI's, even start flirting with you, but then you assume she's uninterested because she didn't give you the number. That's a great mindset.

maybe your perception of ioi's and flirting is just off... but im actually going to try and give you a piece of advise for once.

if i were you i would try and find one girl that you can actually get interest out of and get a girlfriend. you need to get really comfortable around girls, because you are obviously doing something wrong. stop trying to pickup chicks and get into a relationship that you can count on for a little bit and once you figure out how to keep it going you will be much better off in all aspects of life dealing with the other sex. from my understanding you dont have many female "friends" that you can just talk to. you need girls that you can talk to, weather it just be a friend or a girlfriend, to learn how to communicate without the pressure of pickup... you are too worried about technique while you need a good base to start with.

i hope you can take some of that advise.