Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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FR: Donni and duke007's 5th night out

duke007

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Fellow DJ's, I've been meaning to post this field report for quite some time.

Donni and I were getting frustrated by our lack of success on the previous two Tuesday nights. We let diminishing crowds and lack of obvious opportunities affect our performance, which had to stop.

I was also torn between two worlds as I have been dating a great girl over the past month. Donni is really keen to, in his own words, become a huge pimp, so I really wanted to give him some valuable support. He looked the part in a pink shirt and styled hair, which was a huge difference from his appearance last time. Peacocking like this gave him a huge confidence boost...I could almost feel the positive vibe emanating from him.

The night was quick, the women were few and far between but I think we both adapted well to the situation.

Not long after we got there, we stood by the dancefloor. Donni wanted us to act like we didn't give a f*ck....just stand there and look at our surroundings....make our intentions clear with no shame. It must have worked because two fatties stood right in front of us about 1 metre away and made a show of admiring each others' hair. One of them I'd classify as a hot fattie (an HB8+ if she lost weight), but that wasn't good enough. We were unaffected. :)

5 approaches stand out:

Approach 1
Donni walked right up to two girls sitting beside the dancefloor. I was impressed because it was noisy, and because he's so tall he had to stoop down without looking awkward. The hotter girl excused herself quickly so Donni told the other one that she looked German. She was, so he got instant rapport and from what I saw she was warming right up to him. Moments after the friend came back I was about to step in and wing but Donni ejected anyway. It didn't really lead anywhere but worth mentioning as Donni's attitude was straight to the point and unique.

Approach 2
It was my turn, so I opened two young looking girls in the quiet room. One of them was drinking a lot and talkative but my game was way off. To be honest I felt like a fraud...trying to chat up what seemed like ditzy high schoolers on Tuesday night while already dating two others (one of whom I see as GF worthy). My conscience was playing tricks on me and they could probably tell. Donni and I had a long chat about this afterwards. It helped to put my mind at ease by viewing this whole night as a character building exercise rather than pickup hunt.

Approach 3
Now that I felt calm we walked upstairs and saw three super hotties sitting in a group. In a dead environment filled with teen girlies and skanks they were like a shining beacon. I was determined to approach the glamourous blonde, who seemed like an HB9+. I grabbed my balls and sat down next to her. Up close I gauged her as an HB8.5, mainly because I don't go for that barbie doll look. Donni thought she was an HB9.5 though, as I'm sure many guys would. For the first time, I tried an opinion opener I thought of that day. "I need an expert female opinion. At a speech today the speaker said women have higher emotional intelligence than men, but I disagree. What do you think?" This started a decent discussion on the sexes, she was very opinionated but still had a stuck-up air about her.

So I decided to use some neghits. I told her I liked her hair, then followed up with "Yeah I like it a little messy on top." She started to qualify herself, mentioning her upcoming hair appointment to fix up her "top deck" hair. This led to a variety of good opportunities for negs/teasing. I asked about the amount of time a girl needs to apply makeup, talked about her freckles (which were hidden) and accused her of being vain about her appearance and liking attention ("Blondes get noticed more in clubs than brunettes," she said). While I was saying all this in the correct manner, and she wasn't getting hurt/touchy about any of this, I got the sense that she wasn't showing genuine indicators of interest.

I asked another opinion question, "Do women really understand what guys want and need?" This led her to rue the sensitivity of many men today, which I expected. She basically admitted she has never really cared less about a guys feelings and needs. I said, "You're the type of girl my mum warned me about" and a bit later, "I'll warn my friends never to date you" She laughed, but the lack of positive interest was due to the fact she had a boyfriend (she said he rode a motorbike and was out of town...she named the town so I could tell it wasn't made up). Before long I thanked her for answering my questions and left with Donni, who was trying his best to keep her two friends occupied. I was glad that I could carry myself confidently with an HB8.5-9.5 and not supplicate like other guys.

Approach 4
Donni saw two girls standing acting stuckup and rejecting guys by freezing them out. He came up with an awesome line, "Are you guys having fun rejecting guys" He hesitated about using it so I forced him to. From her body language it worked well. He was saying something along the lines of, "I keep seeing guys leave with a sad look on their face, how mean" and "Give me your best shot" I thought I was required to wing at any moment but then he strangely ejected. He misread her body language, because compared to the other guys he was doing well....i think those brainfarts in the first 2 minutes of his sets are stuffing him up too much.

Approach 5
The last notable approach was Donni's idea. Wing for some guy who was taking on a 2-set, leaving one girl on the outer. I sat next to her and pointed out that she looked bored, waiting for her friend to stop chatting up the guy. She was so glad to have some attention! Pity she looked a bit plainer up close. She asked for my name and shook my hand almost straight away. She had some crappy looking pearls around her neck so i said while touching them, "Nice pearls, are they real? :)" She laughed and admitted they were plastic so I suggested they came from a gumball machine or the arcade game where you grab onto a soft toy. This got her talking...but soon her friend and the guy noticed me and started looking over. What the f*ck was he doing? Their little silence encouraged the friend suggest to my target to go and dance. She told me, "my friend wants to go dance, but i'll be back soon" and touched me on the arm. The guy walked away, seemingly rejected. Damn, i winged for this guy and he let me down :)

So that was the rundown of our night...Donni made some more approaches but the details are a little hazy. Overall we were pleased that this is becoming easier. Location was shocking though....as I said on the night, when a fisherman goes out to make a catch, he fishes in the most bountiful part of the ocean. We were dangling our rods in some crappy old metaphorical creek.
 

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I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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TonyTheTigerOI

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First of all... **** neg's and **** glamorous blonds with boyfriends. Why in gods name would you only open a SINGLE girl in a set? Youre BEGGING to get ****blocked. (and you did). Instead of directly negging her, just flirt with her friends and other girls, develop social proof throughout the room during the night, and stick to teasing during the approach.

Also... she knew you thought she was hot and thats why you were talking to her. So you used an opinion opener? She knew EXACTLY where you were going. Be honest. "Hi, Im Anthony, youre pretty cute and I was wondering if youre an interesting person?" THEN drop youre question.

Never use the word VEIN. Ever. Women think they are diamonds... they are proud of themselves. You are telling her that she SHOULDNT be proud of herself. Its just a foolish comment. Instead - call her a 'player.' And let her know that you 'arent easy' and she cant just 'use you, like some sex toy.' Youll get a better laugh, make the same point, and not have to use a nasty, insulting word.

Youre friend should stay in sets longer.

Dont ever stand "by the dance floor" EVER. Not to talk to girls. Not to chill. Not to do ANYTHING. Be all the way ON the floor dancing or be all the way OFF the floor chilling. Black or white. By dancing youre the fun, sexy guy. By chilling youre the cool, relaxed guy. By standing BY the dance floor youre just like every other chump - wishing you were grinding on the floor or makin out in the booths. Even if you AHVE A GOOD REASON to stand there, DONT, youll immediately be associated with all the other guys who just STAND THERE IMAGINING the girls they wont get.

Great job winging for the guy. When that happens and you get ****blocked tell the girl "cool, Im grabbing some water n then I can teach you to dance" and TAKE HER BY THE HAND to the bar, get ur water and walk to the floor. Youre being dominant. You still have the girl. You create distance between her and her **** blocking friend.

Enjoy.
 

duke007

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good comments Tony.

True that opening a single girl in a set isn't ideal, and that would probably be a weakness in my game. This might sound AFC but I didn't feel dominant enough to open them all while they were engaged in conversation. No signals either. Opening a group set who are standing together is also MUCH smoother. When they're sitting, you can't really "enter their world" by standing in front. I realise that a true outgoing pimp could do this, but that is just not my style.

And I didn't use the word vain, I agree with you that it's stupid. I was hinting at it.

About standing by the dancefloor, I can imagine what you are picturing. It wasn't weird like that. In this club, that entire section pretty much becomes a dancefloor later in the night. It's not a specific area set aside as a dancefloor, there are pillars with ledges for your beer, which is where we (and many others) were standing. There is really nowhere else to go (cramped section of the club). There weren't too many people dancing at that time.

And of course you're right about the last girl. I wanted to go home and she was an HB6 anyway!

yeah i know it must sound dodgy that I'm going about this half-heartedly. It;s because I had already found a great girl.
 

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Tony's comments were great. The only things which I can add are that you shouldn't feel bad about sarging when you have a girlfriend who you are fvcking. That is just bad society programming. You can love and care about one girl, and still meet other girls who you will also love and care about at the same time. It is not a contradiction at all.

Also, for the last approach, you can see how the silence of the rest of the set killed the continuous flow of action, and created a moment of awkwardness. When you're sarging, you always want to avoid these small, awkward pauses. If other people in the set are being weird and looking at you, you either have to include them in your convo temporarily, or cut them out totally and turn your back to them.

Good FR btw, keep writing these up. It restores my faith in these boards.

-Dan
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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TonyTheTigerOI

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Originally posted by Delta Male
Tony's comments were great. The only things which I can add are that you shouldn't feel bad about sarging when you have a girlfriend who you are fvcking. That is just bad society programming. You can love and care about one girl, and still meet other girls who you will also love and care about at the same time. It is not a contradiction at all.

This is so true. I would find some balance before I went sarging again. Realize that by meeting and experiencing other women - you are just fulfilling youre natural role.
 
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