"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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FR: Did I do something wrong?

OnTheWayUp

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Gents,

Had what I thought was a great interaction with a girl who I met at a club on Saturday night last week. She's the photographer for the most popular club in my city, and approached my group of friends to take a picture. I've got some experience of taking photos for club websites, so I took her to one side and teased her about her photos being rubbish. I made fun of her accent, teased her for being a perv and taking nude photos, and generally had a good time. I then went round the club with her and her camera helping take pictures, introducing her as my little sister/ my fiancée/ my new co-worker who doesn't know what she's doing etc. She was lapping it up, giving me the "fuvk me" eyes, hitting me in shock, squeezing my hand etc.

I then went back to my friends, got her number, and asked her to come and find me when she had taken enough photos. She did as bidden, and came to say goodbye as she was leaving the club with her friend (an UG2), who had been following us around all this time. It was immediately obvious that I was not going to be able to separate the girl from her friend, so I decided to go with them to build comfort/ get the friend's approval.

We sat down on a bench and talked for 20 mins or so before the girls took a taxi home. I made a point of ignoring my target and focussing almost exclusively on her friend. This seemed to work: I got the friend laughing and telling me her life story, and every now and then the original girl would chip in and compete for my attention and comment how "she had done ... too."

Fastforward two days and I hit up the photography girl with a text referring back to a joke we'd made. She responded enthusiastically. I then asked her to meet me at a party on Tuesday (which was awesome, btw). She said she was busy, but asked if I was going to any more parties in the near future. I've now invited her to a party on Friday. Almost 24 hours have passed and I haven't heard from her.

Any comments on the above interaction would be great. I've got numerous other girls in my sights, but it confuses (and, if I'm honest, frustrates) me that a girl who initially showed so much promise hasn't got back to me.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Patience.

And while you wait, go bang some other girls. Makes the wait more enjoyable.
 
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You didn't do anything wrong, you just need to be patient and see if she gets back to you, if she does fantastic, if she doesn't then fantastic. Chalk up it up and move on.
 

OnTheWayUp

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If she doesn't get back to me, should I re initiate by phone, or does that seem too needy?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Don't invite her to a party. Invite her to the house.
 
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OnTheWayUp said:
If she doesn't get back to me, should I re initiate by phone, or does that seem too needy?
I wouldn't bother, the balls in her court! If she is interested she'll get back to you.
 

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Decided to call her. It worked- we're going for drinks this evening :)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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She just left my flat. We didn't sleep, just talked and fuvked the entire night. ;) She seems a little bit crazy (all the most attractive girls seem to be), VERY flirtatious and a bit too into tickling/ playful punching etc, but other than that... awesome!
 

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OnTheWayUp said:
She just left my flat. We didn't sleep, just talked and fuvked the entire night. ;) She seems a little bit crazy (all the most attractive girls seem to be), VERY flirtatious and a bit too into tickling/ playful punching etc, but other than that... awesome!
you are alucky dude.. i hope you got some pics for the memories..lol:rockon: :rockon:
 
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OnTheWayUp said:
She just left my flat. We didn't sleep, just talked and fuvked the entire night. ;) She seems a little bit crazy (all the most attractive girls seem to be), VERY flirtatious and a bit too into tickling/ playful punching etc, but other than that... awesome!
Nice one mate. Thank Christ you never followed my advice. :crackup:

It just goes to show you that if a girl is really into you and wants to bang you she'll find a way to bang you and you really don't have to do that much to get your end wet.

Keep us posted on your progress mate.
 

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OnTheWayUp said:
She just left my flat. We didn't sleep, just talked and fuvked the entire night. ;) She seems a little bit crazy (all the most attractive girls seem to be), VERY flirtatious and a bit too into tickling/ playful punching etc, but other than that... awesome!
Haha. You sissy.

See, you get all worried because some girl you barely know went 24 hours without contacting you.

Now you know not to worry all the time.

Things work better for you when you're relaxed
 

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Sometimes even the most interested girls need a little push. You followed your instincts and you got rewarded for being right.:)
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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