"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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FR: College Party + LMR

paymon

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I was at a college party doing my thing. I knew like 70% of the people there so I had incredible social proof. There were three girls that travaled about 100 miles to come to the party. At one point in the night, the "leader" of this group of girls pulls me to the side and asks me if I'm persian and I tell her yes. She then tells me her arabic friend wants to make out with me (keep in mind we're talking in persian so she won't understand). She informs me I should make a move, but after checking her out (6.5) I rejected.

The "leader" herself was about an 8.0 and her white friend was a 7. I was getting IOIs from both. When I spoke they would both lean in heavily, make strong EC, would follow my **** tests. So I invite the three girls along with one of my boys to come to my apartment afterwards. Long story short my boy gets caught up at another girl's house so its me and the three girls. The arabic 6.5 is already passed out.

I sit on the couch inbetween the leader and the white girl. The white girl had her legs up on me and giving good kino. The leader on the other hand was a bit more reserved. I wanted to honk the leader, but everytime I isolated the white girl would follow us. I tell the leader to come outside, and the white girl follows us! I tell the leader in persian "throw out your friend" and she says "i cant shes my friend, you do it" but I didnt (maybe I should have! that was a heavy IOI, and I did want to isolate her in order to make out with her).

So later im upstairs in my loft and I tell the leader to come the stairs to my room, and she does, and the white girl follows again. At this point the leader tells me that the white girl also wants me. (I suppose that meant the leader wanted me also, since both her friends did? or maybe not).

The leader eventually goes downstairs and falls asleep in the empty bedroom and me and white girl are left alone. I do some kino, C&F, a little biting, etc. Everything goes well, I go in for the kiss and success. But after about a minute of making out she says "i feel like you are taking advantage" she had been drinking 3-4 hrs prior. So I pulled off and we fell asleep. I later found out she has a boyfriend (who looked like a scrub btw). Possible buyers remorse?

Where did I go wrong?? This white girl was all over me earlier, but when I finally pull the trigger she feels bad?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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paymon said:
Where did I go wrong?? This white girl was all over me earlier, but when I finally pull the trigger she feels bad?
Whoa whoa whoa,where did you go wrong? No where! You got three chicks to come to your home! Its more like "where did they go wrong". The white chick was in the way oh well,perhaps next time. Please tell me you got the # of the leader,so that way you can work from there.
 

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Yeah I got her phone number, she also got into my computer and put her nick into my AIM. I guess that was another IOI. I think I made a crucial error when she told me to tell her friend to leave, but I didn't. That may have been an easy make out.

She lives 100 miles away, I'm not going to call her up like a usual target because I don't think it would work the same way. I guess I will however keep her interest peaked through regular AIM conversations.

I'm just wondering if the mentality of the leader is "out of sight out of mind" or not. I just don't want to get blown off on AIM
 

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paymon said:
She lives 100 miles away, I'm not going to call her up like a usual target because I don't think it would work the same way.
She has driven 100 miles once,she will do it again! Just meet her halfway at a hotel.:)
 
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