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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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FR: Clubbing In Students' Union

GodsGiftToFatBirds

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Alright, time for a brief field report, I haven't got an awful lot to report but I'll post it anyway so you guys can critique it for me.

Went out tonight to the students' union where i work, Monday's generally quite a big party night but not especially for me cos i was driving so restricted to just the 1 pint.
Bit restricted too by the fact that i didn't get there till half 11 for a night which finished at 1.

Pretty much first person i saw in there was an ex of mine from last year, she came bouncing over to me going 'OMG i haven't seen you for ages, how are you? bla bla', i can't be that arsed with her though even though shes hot and was touchy feely and stuff, she's a b!tch and I decided i had bigger fish to fry.

So once i found my mates, we generally just chilled for half an hour or so, whenever I go to a club sober, it tends to take me a while to get in the right state of mind for approaching anyway, can find it hard to project my voice to start with.

I only really had time to get 2 approaches in once i got going (not counting girls who we talked to cos they were friends or friends of friends etc) which is sh!t really, i need to get in the place much earlier.

Approach 1 was on a HB7.5 checking out the dance floor from the balcony, I'm like 'right, who ya checking out then?', she was foreign unfortunately and din't understand, she was like 'I am drunk and I live in Poland'. Decided she probably wasn't worth that much effort!
:D

Approach 2 was much better, was on 2 girls (HB6.5 and HB8) getting water from the water fountain, heard them saying they couldn't find someone they'd lost, i was like 'you lost someone?',
Them: Yeh
Me: who is it?
Them: our 2 housemates
Me: I saw them over there (pointing)
Them: (one of them hits me playfully) You don't even know them
Me: No but they might be over there. Are they blokes or girls?
Them: 2 guys
Me: Yeh I saw 2 guys just over there! I've lost my mate as well actually, i don't think he's very well (lead into story about my mate from here), i can only stay for a minute cos i'd better go and look for him (this was deliberate, using a time constraint, read it in The Game, worked quite well cos they were happy to keep chatting)

Anyway I chatted them up really well for the next 20 minutes, started busting on them loads, my best one was when I was chatting just to the HB6.5 and i turn to the HB8 and i'm like 'you're very quiet, have you got nothing better to do than stand there perving at me?' and she playfully hits me and is like 'i'm so not perving', i'm like 'yes you are, stop it, i find it disturbing' etc etc, the convo gets very flirty towards the end, i've got my arms round both of them and the HB8 is loving me, she keeps putting 1 hand on my hip and pushing her breasts into my arm as they gets much closer than she needs to to talk to me, haha.

Anyway, at the end, I'm like 'well i need to get going anyway, I'll take your numbers' and get both of their phone numbers, then i'm like 'give us a kiss' and kiss them both on the cheek, then i'm like 'girl on girl' and they kiss each other, the HB6.5 goes for the lips and the HB8 pulls away, and i bust on her for that, asking all the probing lesbian questions, they mention that the HB8 is going to stay at the HB6.5's house at the weekend and they'll have to share a double bed, I'm like 'Do you think anything will happen'
Them: 'No!'
Me: 'Not even a little heavy petting once the lights are out?'
Them: 'No!!'
Me: 'What about if you both come back one night and you've both had a bit to drink and you're really enjoying each other's company and things start to get just a little out of hand?' etc etc (I love ripping on girls for being lesbians, its hilarious)

Eventually, they agree that should anything happen, they'll film it on their camera phones and send me the video, haha. (They knew this was all joking, btw, they were cracking up all the way through)

So anyway, that was the night, I liked the HB8 and could tell she was digging me but didn't see a ONS happening so didn't try anything, think i'll call her in a couple of days.

Any thoughts/opinions/comments?
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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muttley

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Pretty much first person i saw in there was an ex of mine from last year, she came bouncing over to me going 'OMG i haven't seen you for ages, how are you? bla bla', i can't be that arsed with her though even though shes hot and was touchy feely and stuff, she's a b!tch and I decided i had bigger fish to fry.
got rid of her , let her see you macking, good man!:up:

Approach 1 was on a HB7.5 checking out the dance floor from the balcony, I'm like 'right, who ya checking out then?', she was foreign unfortunately and din't understand, she was like 'I am drunk and I live in Poland'. Decided she probably wasn't worth that much effort!
shudve # closed her for practice, i wudve, who cares if she says no.



i was like 'you lost someone?',
Them: Yeh
Me: who is it?
Them: our 2 housemates
Me: I saw them over there (pointing)
Them: (one of them hits me playfully) You don't even know them
Me: No but they might be over there. Are they blokes or girls?
Them: 2 guys
Me: Yeh I saw 2 guys just over there! I've lost my mate as well actually, i don't think he's very well (lead into story about my mate from here), i can only stay for a minute cos i'd better go and look for him (this was deliberate, using a time constraint, read it in The Game, worked quite well cos they were happy to keep chatting)
EXCELLENT!, im planning on using time contstraints too! i will sarge again on thursday/friday.... easy time contraints like "very quickly i ...." "i have to go shortly.." "briefly , could you.." "i cant talk long im in a rush...." etc etc
:D


he HB8 and i'm like 'you're very quiet, have you got nothing better to do than stand there perving at me?' and she playfully hits me and is like 'i'm so not perving', i'm like 'yes you are, stop it, i find it disturbing' etc etc, the convo gets very flirty towards the end, i've got my arms round both of them and the HB8 is loving me, she keeps putting 1 hand on my hip and pushing her breasts into my arm as they gets much closer than she needs to to talk to me, haha.
good job on bustin/teasin em. Qualify them, ive been reading alot on this and its very important. If shes gettin close, and givin good IOIs + kino then go in for a kiss, i wud :D



Anyway, at the end, I'm like 'well i need to get going anyway, I'll take your numbers' and get both of their phone numbers, then i'm like 'give us a kiss' and kiss them both on the cheek, then i'm like 'girl on girl' and they kiss each other, the HB6.5 goes for the lips and the HB8 pulls away, and i bust on her for that, asking all the probing lesbian questions, they mention that the HB8 is going to stay at the HB6.5's house at the weekend and they'll have to share a double bed, I'm like 'Do you think anything will happen'
Them: 'No!'
Me: 'Not even a little heavy petting once the lights are out?'
Them: 'No!!'
Me: 'What about if you both come back one night and you've both had a bit to drink and you're really enjoying each other's company and things start to get just a little out of hand?' etc etc (I love ripping on girls for being lesbians, its hilarious)

Eventually, they agree that should anything happen, they'll film it on their camera phones and send me the video, haha. (They knew this was all joking, btw, they were cracking up all the way through)
LOL, good stuff. I tease girls about being lesbians too and they love it. STuff like, "your going to the toilets together because you feel each other up" And if they send you that video, SEND ME IT ASAP :p

oh yeh, i read in one of ya threads that you in manchester soemwhere... when u mentioned this:

Went out tonight to the students' union where i work
(HB6.5 and HB8) getting water from the water fountain,
!!, thats university of manchestr SU on oxford road ( i was a student at man met for 1 yr ).. manchester is CRAWLING with hbs, spoilt for choice.
Maybe ill travel down one day and we can sarge it up DJ style!

peace

muttley
 

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!!, thats university of manchestr SU on oxford road ( i was a student at man met for 1 yr ).. manchester is CRAWLING with hbs, spoilt for choice.
Maybe ill travel down one day and we can sarge it up DJ style!
No its not Manchester Uni actually, its Warwick, though I have been sarging in Manchester before and there were some hot women about, even though it was summer and wasn't in term time for the uni's.

I'll have to let you know next time i'm in Manchester, where do you live?
 
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