FR: Clubbing 4

[h2o]

Okay, I just got back from the club.

I went to a different club this time, much more upscale. Key is that was UPSCALE. The girls were fine as hell. There were only a few Hb7s...every other girl was bangin' hot.

I have to say, wow...the game is a lot tougher here. It is definitely a challenge. I approached few girls, because my game is mostly: 1) pick-up at the bar, 2) pull to dance floor, 3) isolate/close

I went there with two wings...my new wings who I've met a few weeks ago at another club.

We got there at around 11:45PM.

Only girls on the dance floor. We head to the bar for a drink. Overall, I drank a lot less tonight, so I didn't really get trashed or anything.

The dance floor was a lot smaller. The place started getting more and more crowded. It was so crowded that you could barely move...seriously it was so packed there.

Anyway, most of the night I was just dancing by myself or with my boys, or with girls that would pass by...we would momentarily dance with them.

I did like 4 approaches total. Seriously, it was tough as hell. I'd say there were like 300 people, and 40 girls...but the girls were fine as hell. If you could pull there, you have to be pretty skilled ...although I like to think I got somewhat close on Approach#3.

It was so tough doing approaches though. I would make eyecontact and smile at girls and they would just go away. A lot of girls were just attention wh0res...seriously, a lot of them were just there for attention...it was so obvious.

Approach#1
I left my friends to go solo to the bar. I went up to this girl and said "hey" and we smiled at each other. I forget what I said exactly, but she wouldn't come to dance with me, so I just left her. We smiled at each other once or twice through the night, after that.

Approach#2
Girl smiled at me, and I danced with her. As we grinded, I got her name. We danced for a good amount of time...I should have gotten her number but didn't.

Approach#3
My wing tells me there's a hot chick behind us. I look, and she's seriously a Hb9, no kidding. I walk up and say "hey." She seems very receptive, and she's holding a water bottle?! So I bust on her for that...we joke, and vibe well for a little bit. She asks me my name first, and tells me hers. I ask how old she is...she's like 27? I'm like "dayum...you look more like 19!?" wow...it was a genuine compliment if at all. I had her guess my age...and then I was like "it's not age it's experience" and we sort of flirted off of that.

Anyway, I end up number closing her...I had the opportunity to kiss but didn't...sh|t, oh well. It was good practice. I think she was interested enough for a kiss, but it's like I always fcuk something up...and this was it tonight.

Approach#4
I see a guy grinding with a girl, and her friend, Hb9 is dancing with her. I go up and lightly brush on her arm so she at least sees me. I made eyecontact with her, and then with the guy that was dancing with her friend. It seemed okay, so I start grinding up on her. She seems to like it, so we continue, and I run my left hand along her thigh. I say "what's your name" and she seems interested? So she tells me, and asks mine...we shake hands. I got her number because it was late and she was leaving. I said I'd call her...cool.

The good thing about this approach is that I notice the importance of social proof, again. A girl with her bf was definitely checking me out when I was dancing with the girl...it was cool...I was actually about to approach her with her bf, but they got on the dance floor shortly after.

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eh...even if both those numbers are flakes, it's cool. This club was A LOT more upscale, and game was much tougher. There were so many damn guys it was crazy. It just makes me want to get my game even more in check.

I didn't see anyone kissing in this club, guys were being blown out of sets left and right, it was crazy. I think it's good though, because if I can get my game good here, I will get really good. This place felt like a battle ground.

Anyway, play on...

 

[h2o]

ah...one more thing...

When I'm dancing with a girl, grinding and all, one thing that usually gets a good response that I like to say is:

"you're not too bad"

and I said that with the girls I danced with tonight...they were actually all three better than me, so it got a laugh from them...

...if you're an okay dancer, and she's really good, say something along those lines, she'll like it most probably...

i'll have to field test it a bit more next week. i'm not saying memorize it, but just being playful with it.
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one last thing, i keep forgetting.

actually, when me and my friends were lounging, I made eyecontact witht this one girl, and she approached me/us. but she was looking for some drugs...and I guess we look like the type of dealers that would be dealing drugs? ahahaha...we joked about it for a bit too, it was fun...I guess we do actually look like drug dealers, a little bit. my friend who's black looks a lot like a thug/pimp, and my other friend and i look like his body guards/ associates...hahahaha

it was funny though, the girl was pretty hot, around an Hb8...if we had some powder or something, I would have had some ass tonight most probably

we'll probably do something like that next week

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okay...I just gotta say this...this club made me feel one thing and I just have to say I felt like 'dayum, this is where the real players are at'

I mean, if you think you've got good game, go to an upscale club...you'll be thinking twice ...only 2 phone numbers, I was pathetic, seriously

one of my friends left early to go fcuk his ex. he lucked out. I didn't have fb for the night...but it was still fun...and I'm actually pretty glad I didn't get laid tonight, because it's motivation...I'm more driven because of it

 

[spider_007]

From what I understand upscale clubs are full of older people. Chicks there have seen all the game, and know the rulles, they've been fvcked up, down and sideways. They have learned from the past and now want something in return for their ass.....

If a chick goes to an upper classy club, wouldn't that meen that she is looking for an upper class man (money, house....the works)

 

[h2o]

Originally posted by spider_007
From what I understand upscale clubs are full of older people. Chicks there have seen all the game, and know the rulles, they've been fvcked up, down and sideways. They have learned from the past and now want something in return for their ass.....

If a chick goes to an upper classy club, wouldn't that meen that she is looking for an upper class man (money, house....the works)

Yeah, the crowd was a bit older...I'm 21, and it seemed like I didn't meet anyone my age or younger.

But, like you said "chicks there have seen all the game, and know the rules" ...

...in other words, if you can pull there, you have to be the shiit. And that's why I'm going to continue going to these types of places from now on, because if I can get good here, other clubs will be easy as pie. I don't know about them being goldiggers and what not, but it's probably more common at that type of club, true. Some of them are younger than that one 27yr-old though...like the 4th girl I approached was 22.

I don't know why I'm like this, but it gave me a good feeling that I went out and couldn't pull so easily. I felt great because I know there's a challenge ahead of learning lots more game. I also think the the first time at each club you need to 'feel the place out' a bit, and the next few times you're better at it.

 

[RedPill]

H20 dude good report. Ultimately the real women that we're all secretly pining for are the *classy* broads. You know who they are. They know the game. In fact, I have a theory that many of them used to be the woman version of what we call afc at this site. But some have gotten to their social position of classy woman on pure beauty alone.

The classy broad is just as female though as the traditional club skanks. Which is why you got phone numbers.

It was so tough doing approaches though. I would make eyecontact and smile at girls and they would just go away.

These women need some sort of social proof from you. Especially with a 40/300 ratio. They know they could get with just about any guy there. What makes you any different from the rest? This is how it works when you're around the classy chicks. Btw I'm not proclaiming to be any expert in dealing with these types of women... yet. Really to have proof though in this environment you have to be the prize. These women aren't 21. They've been around enough to see right through the guys who pretend they're doing well. Let's put it this way, fake it 'til you make it might buy you a couple months with a young inexperienced girl, but with the classy mid-20s+ hot chicks it'll only buy you about 10 minutes.

 

[h2o]

Originally posted by RedPill
These women need some sort of social proof from you. Especially with a 40/300 ratio. They know they could get with just about any guy there. What makes you any different from the rest? This is how it works when you're around the classy chicks. Btw I'm not proclaiming to be any expert in dealing with these types of women... yet. Really to have proof though in this environment you have to be the prize. These women aren't 21. They've been around enough to see right through the guys who pretend they're doing well. Let's put it this way, fake it 'til you make it might buy you a couple months with a young inexperienced girl, but with the classy mid-20s+ hot chicks it'll only buy you about 10 minutes.

Yeah, thanks, very good point. I had two wings with me, but that's definitely not enough. I'm also not a built guy at all, I'm still bulking...I'm 5'10" and 136 or so, which is pretty skinny.

Actually, I've decided that I'm going to lay off the clubs for a few weeks...it's draining me a bit in terms of time/money, which I don't have enough of...again, goes back to your "having your sh*t together" ...that I don't exactly have down completely.

Thing is, you went out there and solely had fun, and got numbers as a byproduct of just having your sh*t together, being a businessman and all. You say that one Hb9 just gave you her number at the end of the taxi ride.

But I don't have all that down yet...I can still go out and solely have fun, but because I lack the social proof or being the "prize" as you say, I won't get as much as a byproduct...and need to put in a bit of effort. This is one reason I can't wait until I go clubbing a few years from now...having a job, a killer bachelor pad, having bulked for a few years...I know I'll be pulling classy women then. Right now, I don't expect much anyway...and that's fine by me.

 

[allan976]

"I didn't see anyone kissing in this club, guys were being blown out of sets left and right, it was crazy. I think it's good though, because if I can get my game good here, I will get really good. This place felt like a battle ground. Anyway, play on."

---Awesome mindset. I tend to get discouraged with every rejection. For example, Friday morning, I tried to open a '6' in a coffeeshop and get blown out quickly. I was devastated! I almost didn't go out in the evening at all. Luckily for myself (and for the ladies lol) I did.

Sometimes, I even get discouraged when things are going well! I number date closed yesterday and my wings were telling me I had a "brilliant" way of closing the girl. I think they were sincere, but I poo-poohed it as just an "average" or "unremarkable" pickup.

---I just go through these ups and downs but hearing about how well you respond to these challenges is very inspiring. Nice.

Allan