"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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FR: # close at 'gym'

ApocalypseCow2

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Hell yeah! 3 months ago, I got out of a 2 year relationship. Since then, I been spending time improving myself and concentrating on work. Today, some of it paid off.

My apartment complex has a gym room. About 2 months ago, I started going there regularly. One day, I ran into an HB7. OK looks, pretty good body, awesome tan. We chat and she seems fairly interested.

Over the next couple weeks, we run into each other. She mentions her favorite sitcom, and I say I like it, too. Then she says, "Oh, you should come by and borrow the box set sometime!" Heh heh.

I saw her by the apartment pool a couple weeks ago and we started talking. We started talking about her new dog. Her: "Oh, you should come by and see him sometime." Heh heh.

The whole time I played it pretty cool. However, I recently found out she's moving out of the apartment complex at the end of the month! So, I decided it was time to act.

Today, I met her in the gym again. We talked about several things, including her new apartment. I intentionally mentioned about my ex-girlfriend's experience renting an apartment with a poorly written lease. I really wanted to get a mention of the "ex girlfriend" in there.

Anyway, we talk:

Me: So, I gotta run now, but hey, what's your number?
Her: My phone number or apartment number?
Me: Phone #.

She gives and I write it down :D

I'm fairly certain she doesn't have a boyfriend. I overheard her talking on the phone, and it doesn't sound like she has a dude helping her move.

I figure I'll call her next Monday and try to set something up for next Wednesday. Probably pool and some beers.

Sorry for the novel, but damn, it's satisfying to go out into the wild and bring home a number.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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allan976

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Way to go. I woulda Gunwitched her right away if she was living in my complex though! She clearly gave you an invite by telling you you could check out her box or her set or her boxed set or whatever--I would have acted on that asap. In fact, that sounds like one of the lines I would use! Also, when she asked you if you wanted her apartment number, that suggests she was ready to give you that info in addition or prior to her phone. Again, a signal that she wanted you up there asap. But at least you got the number close. Check out Gunwitch when you get a chance.

Allan
 

ER!C L!VE

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Originally posted by ApocalypseCow2
Oh, you should come by and borrow the box set sometime!" "Oh, you should come by and see him sometime." Heh heh.
Geez bro, this girl wants it. She's saying get ur ass over to my place and fvck the hell outta me.:cheer:
 

ApocalypseCow2

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Originally posted by GodsGiftToWomen
Awesome job man.

It's good to see some FR's! She def wants you.

Don't be so quick to talk about Ex's though! ;)
Thanks guys. Yeah, I definitely hear ya baout talking about ex's. I'm definitely not going to bring it up again....I just wanted it to be out there that I had had a girlfriend in the past.
 

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Originally posted by ApocalypseCow2
Thanks guys. Yeah, I definitely hear ya baout talking about ex's. I'm definitely not going to bring it up again....I just wanted it to be out there that I had had a girlfriend in the past.
Im sure she figured you had been in a previous relationship at some time.

BUT she was interested in you so why do you even need to mention it at all?

I always wonder why women(men too) always mention their ex's (or dropping names) like it brings some sort of an achievement.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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This chick invited you to her apartment on multiple occasions!

Don't take steps backwards when you can bypass number getting, going on date (the long route) etc to get straight into her apartment (the short cut)!

Always remember the end goal and focus on it. Putting unneccessary things in the way of that just slows progress and if they can be bypassed, do it.

This is like guys who go to a club intent on getting numbers - chicks are in clubs ready to get laid there and then!
 

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THREE WORDS

"This chick invited you to her apartment on multiple occasions! Don't take steps backwards..."

---Three words: Doh! Gunwitch. Escalate.
 
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