FR: Bus stop HB8 Promiscuous Party Girl!!! PLEASE READ!!

[Ken785]

So i met this HB8 at the bus stop at my university, i get her number and i tried calling her yesterday but she said she'd call me back because she was watching the game but never did. Today we have meet to have a bite after texting each other back and forth while we are in class, This is the transcript of the texts:

HB8: Is is ken?
Ken785: Yes.
HB8: Ok sorry I was watching the game
Ken785: Its cool...sports can be addicting
HB8: Im working tonight...will you c0me?
Ken785: Maybe not..last 3 weeks of school is crunch time 4 me. But we can meet @ school 4 coffee or something if u want...
HB8: Wat ur major
Ken785: Ill tell you over coffee...deal?
HB8: Wat no deal
Ken785: Y not? U dont like coffee? How about smoothies? Lunch ok?
HB8: Ru on campus
Ken785: Yes but in class...but SHhH! Ur being too loud! Teacher will hear us
HB8: ?
Ken785: Joke
HB8: Lame
Ken785:
HB8: Wat ur major
Ken785: whats urs?
HB8: Fine dont tell me. Wat ur sign?
Ken785: What? U want to know my horoscope too? haha.
HB8: Fine. I hate u
Ken785: No u dont...because people cant hate people they dont know HB8 so 4 u to hate me, u have to have coffee with me. Get 2 know me, then u can hate me all u want...deal?
HB8: Wat deal
Ken785: To meet for coffee
HB8: Wen
Ken785: 20 min call me?
HB8: I get out at 150 then class again 210 to 4
Ken785: I have class 4-6 : (
HB8: Ima go to the SU* (*Student Union) to grab something to eat @rnd 150
Ken785: Dont u have another class @2? Ill be napping
HB8: 210 mite not go I wana go shopping DT* (*downtown)
Ken785: Ok call wen ur there
HB8: Im out! Im out! Yes! Freedom!

**I call her, no answer, she then texts me..

HB8: Im at SHS
Ken785: Wats that?
HB8: Student Health
Ken785: Meet u there?
HB8: Maybe a bit i have to c nurse
Ken785: Y? Call me after?
HB8: K

** Then i call her and we end up meeting and as she gets a sandwich, i ask her what she went to the nurse for...she said...

HB8: Oh, I had to get birth control pills..

Ken785: (Thinking) DING DING DING!!!!!!!

So she then gets her sandwich and we find a quiet place to sit, she shows me all the stuff she got from the nurse in the brown paper bag, there were all kinds of sh!t in there...condoms, female condoms, Lubricant...then we start talking...

U wont believe it, this b!tch is crazy!! She was talking about she works at an underground bar downtown that opens from 2-6am (she also told me when we met) and told me how she gets totally trashed and told me how she had to bartend one time and could because she was so trashed and went home with a random guy because she needed a ride home and ended up sleeping in the car and that shes crazy like that and blah blah.

Then the girl talks about her teacher trying to hit on her and sh!t and gets into politics about how we should live it up now and that getting a degree is really bullsh!t and starts getting into how the ecomy is all fvcked up and that were in a recession and how the earth is fvcked up and the water is dirty and how in the next 5 years people are going to start dying...not totally but just slowly...and that the government doesnt tell u that and that they only talk about Hollywood and stuff like that...

Im sitting there just nodding my head, like..

Ken785: "Yeah...ugh huh...yeah the government likes to sweep things under the rug and cover a lot of things up and distract people to get our minds off this stuff.."

Then after 25 min or so of hearing her rant about this **** she says she has to go to class...it was 2:38pm...i said arent you going shopping? She says she'll just go to class and that it was a 3 hour class (she text me saying her class was 210-4 WTF?) and that the teacher just BS's the first hour anyways...

then we hug and i say we gotta hang out sometime and she agrees and leaves...20 minutes later she texts me..

HB8: Wats ur sign!
Ken785: Give me a reason to
Ken785: U know wat?
Ken785: What time u werkin HB8?
HB8: 10. Tell me
Ken785: I will tell u when u give me a reason y u wanna know so bad...i promise i will

Now its been an hour since i texted that, she hasnt texted back. I really wanna fvck this girl....

UPDATE:

I gave in and texted her back:

Ken785: U dont have one? Pieces. Now can u tell me y u wanna know so bad?
HB8: Scorpio we.re great match we get along well cuz ur nice and im a psycho
Ken785: Yeah u seem like a cool chick. Kinda psycho i agree but i think its cute!
HB8: Ha! im guna kill u one day

*****Im getting a little freaked out at this point...but i play it off*****

Ken785: Cute..what time u get off work tonight i wanna see you
HB8: 2am
Ken785: If im not too tired after school ill go to ur bar..if u want me to come..call me or text me if ur down HB8.
HB8: Y
Ken785: Huh?
HB8: Y u wana see me
Ken785: Its weird, u were just talking and randomly left. You kinda intriege me i never met someone so "out of the box" as u
HB8: Hehe. U Pieces are always facinated by us. Such an easy kill
Ken785: Hey! Not so fast..i like u n all, i think ur cute, but im not as easy as u think! U want me u gotta work 4 it

...WILL KEEP U POSTED!!

Opinions? Suggestions? What u thinks my next move? [/QUOTE]

 

[Guitar_Whizz]

So this girl is obviously a nympho and loves sex, and she was indirectly telling you this with the stuff she had in the brown paper bag.

However, girls like a man who leads the interaction to sex, and you didn't really do that. It seemed, from reading your post, that you just let her rant on about her boring stuff instead.

I personally would've taken control and lead the conversation. I'd have interrupted her and started talking about positive experiences, her hopes and dreams, her happy memories, (and let her talk aboput these things too), played a few fun little PUA games, and kino'd her a lot and busted her balls to get her laughing.


If she was receptive to my kino during the date, I'd have suggested going for a quick walk, and then I'd have tried holding hands to see if she reciprocated. If she let me hold hands with her, I'd have stopped walking and then kissed her.

After the kiss, I'd have suggested a change of venue or a reason to get back to her place or your place, such as 'to watch a dvd' or 'to show her your music collection' etc.

Once the girl is isolated, it's matter of escalating to sex....

I think there's a good chance you're already in the dreaded 'friends zone' anyway. However, you have to realise that this is NOT a girl who is looking for dating or relationships at this time. It was blatantly obvious she's just up for casual sex, so she'd make a decent FB.

Your only shot at sex with her is to set up another meet, preferably at yours or her place, or at least ending up at yours or her place, and make sure this time YOU control the conversation, YOU lead, you kino and you go in for the kiss, and you try to escalate to sex. That's the only way you'll be able to see where this will lead.

I think you may need to polish up your day 2 skills, as there's no evidence here that you knew how to control the interaction, etc.

My gut feeling is that as the day 2 didn't go too well, she doesn't see you as a guy she'd have sex with, but I may be wrong here. My suggestions above are the way to find out what the score is.

Best of luck and let us know how it turns out.

 

[MotownMack]

She's a bartender - remember that- her frame is that of an HB10, even if she is only an HB8.

You need to go full out DJ on her.

And at the moment, it sounds like she is gaming you, not the other way around.

 

[Apollo]

This girl sounds nuts, you should probably avoid. If you want to hit it up meet her for drinks and escalate...sounds like she'd be up for it if you play it cool.

Oh, stop the damn texting...it's ruining your chances.

 

[Ken785]

UPDATE:

This is where i make another mistake:

Its been an hour since i last texted her, i now turn into a desperate AFC and text the following:

Ken785: Well im leaving class now talk to you later gator

**15 min, no reply...im now at the train station and there is a hold up, i get even more anxious fishing for another reply...so i text again....

Ken785: The train is stuck! GrRr!! Entertain me while i wait

...Now its been like 2 hours, still no reply...i want to call her but my inner DJ says to forget about it and if she calls you again or texts you, fine...if not...its not such i big loss, she sounds like a lot of trouble anyway.

 

[Ken785]

So this girl is obviously a nympho and loves sex, and she was indirectly telling you this with the stuff she had in the brown paper bag.

However, girls like a man who leads the interaction to sex, and you didn't really do that. It seemed, from reading your post, that you just let her rant on about her boring stuff instead.

I personally would've taken control and lead the conversation. I'd have interrupted her and started talking about positive experiences, her hopes and dreams, her happy memories, (and let her talk aboput these things too), played a few fun little PUA games, and kino'd her a lot and busted her balls to get her laughing.


If she was receptive to my kino during the date, I'd have suggested going for a quick walk, and then I'd have tried holding hands to see if she reciprocated. If she let me hold hands with her, I'd have stopped walking and then kissed her.

After the kiss, I'd have suggested a change of venue or a reason to get back to her place or your place, such as 'to watch a dvd' or 'to show her your music collection' etc.

Once the girl is isolated, it's matter of escalating to sex....

I think there's a good chance you're already in the dreaded 'friends zone' anyway. However, you have to realise that this is NOT a girl who is looking for dating or relationships at this time. It was blatantly obvious she's just up for casual sex, so she'd make a decent FB.

Your only shot at sex with her is to set up another meet, preferably at yours or her place, or at least ending up at yours or her place, and make sure this time YOU control the conversation, YOU lead, you kino and you go in for the kiss, and you try to escalate to sex. That's the only way you'll be able to see where this will lead.

I think you may need to polish up your day 2 skills, as there's no evidence here that you knew how to control the interaction, etc.

My gut feeling is that as the day 2 didn't go too well, she doesn't see you as a guy she'd have sex with, but I may be wrong here. My suggestions above are the way to find out what the score is.

Best of luck and let us know how it turns out.

I don't have any intentions of making her my exclusive GF, as she seems like trouble and plus i wouldn't want a relationship with a crazy party girl, im not trying to "save a h0". I just want her as a nice FB because im juggling 2 other plates at the moment.

 

[MotownMack]

She does sound like trouble, and your inner DJ should have stopped you a long time ago.

Stop sending texts, NOW.

And it's also AFC to assume she is sitting right next to her phone and constantly going to reply. I text some, but I almost never send two unanswered ones in a row. You're up to what, 3 now? And timing them?

I will say this again, she is bartender and obviously an AW. You giving her this much attention this early is killing your chances.

 

[Ken785]

She does sound like trouble, and your inner DJ should have stopped you a long time ago.

Stop sending texts, NOW.

And it's also AFC to assume she is sitting right next to her phone and constantly going to reply. I text some, but I almost never send two unanswered ones in a row. You're up to what, 3 now? And timing them?

I will say this again, she is bartender and obviously an AW. You giving her this much attention this early is killing your chances.

Youre right...i gotta play this the DJ way. A part of me still wants to fvck her,but ill just play it like whatever, i also think shes an attention wh0re now hence when she says i was 'an easy kill'.

 

[Latinoman]

Ken...no offense, but you write like an illiterate 14 year old child.

Come on dude...you want to REALLY be succesful with women...drop the texting (and if you do, do it in English).

Separate yourself from the rest...from the pack.

Concerning that girl? I don't know how "hot" she is...but damn, reading that exchange bored me to death.

 

[Ken785]

Ken...no offense, but you write like an illiterate 14 year old child.

Come on dude...you want to REALLY be succesful with women...drop the texting (and if you do, do it in English).

Separate yourself from the rest...from the pack.

Concerning that girl? I don't know how "hot" she is...but damn, reading that exchange bored me to death.

Illiterate? I guess so, i do type in a very conversational "myspace" way. I don't do that with school work though.

 

[Latinoman]

Illiterate? I guess so, i do type in a very conversational "myspace" way. I don't do that with school work though.

If you want to be a DJ...you have to separate yourself from the bunch. You are in a University in a very liberal town.

Why waste your time with MySpace or text messaging?

Take charge.

Honestly...that woman probably thinks she has intimidated you. Phuck that...it should be the other way around. When she tries to do that crap to you...simply act dismissal.

Play the cucky and funny thing. If you decide to text...change the accronyms and that crap into complete short-crisp-clear statements.

 

[Ken785]

If you want to be a DJ...you have to separate yourself from the bunch. You are in a University in a very liberal town.

Why waste your time with MySpace or text messaging?

Take charge.

Honestly...that woman probably thinks she has intimidated you. Phuck that...it should be the other way around. When she tries to do that crap to you...simply act dismissal.

Play the cucky and funny thing. If you decide to text...change the accronyms and that crap into complete short-crisp-clear statements.

The reason for all the texting is she texted me first and i was either on the train or in class so i couldn't call her, and since she responded very quickly, i just kept doing it.

UPDATE:

She just texted me just now...fvck i dont care to talk to her so i just texted her back.

HB8: wat
Ken785: Have a nice nite, and be safe. That is all. Later gator
HB8: watever

 

[Latinoman]

Ken785: U dont have one? Pieces. Now can u tell me y u wanna know so bad?
HB8: Scorpio we.re great match we get along well cuz ur nice and im a psycho
Ken785: Yeah u seem like a cool chick. Kinda psycho i agree but i think its cute!
HB8: Ha! im guna kill u one day

I would have said...

HB8: Scorpio we.re great match we get along well cuz ur nice and im a psycho
Latinoman: Really?
HB8: Ha! im guna kill u one day
Latinoman: Nahhhh...I will show you "nice" and you will get addicted.



HB8: Y u wana see me
Latinoman: I don't waste my time.
HB8: Hehe. U Pieces are always facinated by us. Such an easy kill
Latinoman: I am not fascinated...I am simply careful. Don't want to make a psycho out of you.
HB8: I'm a psycho.
Latinoman: If you ever phuck me...you will be an "addicted
psycho". That's for sure.

 

[Latinoman]

Straight to the point. She is not worth of your time. So don't waste your time filling her ego with attention.

 

[Ken785]

Straight to the point. She is not worth of your time. So don't waste your time filling her ego with attention.

I know, after that "watever" comment i dont care aNYmore...i thought about calling her to tell her how rude she was or texting back

"watever the fvck ever then"

but i wont go and do that.

 

[Latinoman]

HB8: watever
Latinoman: Hehehe. If you want something...just say it.

 

[Ken785]

HB8: watever
Latinoman: Hehehe. If you want something...just say it.

Ok, i just texted her that

UPDATE:

Ken785: If you want something..just say it.
HB8: POOP
Ken785: U want my poop? Wow! Ur a kinky ass nancy
HB8: Gr0ss
Ken785: Hey, ur the one that said it

 

[Warrior74]

good lord. get off the ****ing text messages. They are killing you. It's so many ways to misinterpret tone, inflection and intent when you don't know a person.

I don't see any interest from this girl after the 'whatever". That's usually a term of dismissal. but then again there in lies the problem with text messaging. you don't know if she was being cute or a *****.

Be a ****ing man and call her. Set up a meet and follow thru. Enuff with the gay ass text messaging. Save that for later after you know her and she knows you and you understand how each other talks and thinks.

She probably things you are scared to even call her. I only do text messaging when I get one. I'll reply and leave it at that. If I want to talk I call.

Motown Mack gave you good advice. You agreed with it and then proceeded to do the opposite because you thought Latinoman gave you some magic that would get her back. Instead you got poop. Think about it.

You have this girl so high on that pedestal. How do I know...check your thread title... the bait of sex has you hooked . You are like an overexcited little kid and she knows it.

 

[Latinoman]

Ok, i just texted her that

UPDATE:

Ken785: If you want something..just say it.
HB8: POOP
Ken785: U want my poop? Wow! Ur a kinky ass nancy
HB8: Gr0ss
Ken785: Hey, ur the one that said it

Damn dude.

HB8: POOP
Latinoman: What about stopping by my place after you get out of work?

Listen...she is an attention *****. You either feed her attention or you neutralize that attention by putting her in a situation in which she will have to make a decision.

 

[Latinoman]

good lord. get off the ****ing text messages. They are killing you. It's so many ways to misinterpret tone, inflection and intent when you don't know a person.

I don't see any interest from this girl after the 'whatever". That's usually a term of dismissal. but then again there in lies the problem with text messaging. you don't know if she was being cute or a *****.

Be a ****ing man and call her. Set up a meet and follow thru. Enuff with the gay ass text messaging. Save that for later after you know her and she knows you and you understand how each other talks and thinks.

She probably things you are scared to even call her. I only do text messaging when I get one. I'll reply and leave it at that. If I want to talk I call.

Motown Mack gave you good advice. You agreed with it and then proceeded to do the opposite because you thought Latinoman gave you some magic that would get her back. Instead you got poop. Think about it.

You have this girl so high on that pedestal. How do I know...check your thread title... the bait of sex has you hooked . You are like an overexcited little kid and she knows it.

He can call her now and see if she wants to meet him at his place. If she drags her feet...then stop 100% communication. No need to waste his time with this girl.