Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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FR: Bike Date

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I went biking with the girl i like today. Everythign went well, but i was trying to get my first kiss in.

I've did a search on kissing, my only problem today was "the right moment".

I guess the right moment never came. I had my last chance when we went home, but her dad opened the garage door so i guess i dind't have a chance there.

When does this "right moment" occur? or how do you know? Share some experiences, anyone?

I can fill out the details if anyone is interested but right now i'm exhausted.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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the right moment is whenever the fck you feel like it.
 

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^. Ding.

You can wait and wait and wait and wait until the perfect moment, until it passes you by. There were probably HUNDREDS of chances to kiss her, because an INTERESTED girl does not care where, when or why, as long as it HAPPENS.

Yeah? Make sure she's got interest though.
 

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The right moment is when you get your pocket money and pay her to kiss you... Mwa ha ha... Just kiddin'

Sorry about that I blame that on sleep depravation...

Anyway I saw your "Bike date" thread and I thought it was cute, so ill give ya a tip, you have to create the moment... by inducing it through kino, eye contact, body language, suggestion, seduction, etc... David D gives a good tech (which the name escapes me...) but it consists of triangular gazing (there we go I think @.@).

Basically look into her eyes (i.e don't stare, gaze) and retain eye contact for a moment then glance at her lips and then back to her eyes. This tech is meant to give her the magic moment… there are three possibilities(allegedly) in which are:
A) she will break eye contact,
B) mirror your moves, Or
C) start leaning in,
is she breaks eye contact try again later, only lean in when for the kiss if she mirrors your triangular pattern or starts leaning in (if you lean in first and she bails your perceived value will decrease thus making you less desirable) also you have to be close about an arms length preferably (so no standing at the other end of jungle gym) if you can work some kino in there your chances of success will increase.

I am not going to tell you how to start the eye contact cause if you can't do that then you still have some learning to do before you try this. If ya need any tips give us a bell...

Love

Amethyst
 

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Damn, you guys make it sound so easy. It should be this easy. Yeah. I'm gonna attempt to set up another one and go again. This time I will keep this in mind. And i'll bring back an update.

The Shocker said:
the right moment is whenever the fck you feel like it.
and this..

Docs said:
You can wait and wait and wait and wait until the perfect moment, until it passes you by. There were probably HUNDREDS of chances to kiss her, because an INTERESTED girl does not care where, when or why, as long as it HAPPENS.
and Yeah this is what i "researched" going into this date. I'll definately identify this one again also.

Amethyst said:
Basically look into her eyes (i.e don't stare, gaze) and retain eye contact for a moment then glance at her lips and then back to her eyes. This tech is meant to give her the magic moment… there are three possibilities(allegedly) in which are:
A) she will break eye contact,
B) mirror your moves, Or
C) start leaning in
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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good technique tips, Amethyst.
 

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Yo Guys.

Update: 2 weeks ago, we went biking again, she fell off the bike (not really my fault, she crashed into me), and really injured her arm. turns out it wasn't broken, but its sprained. i felt pretty guilty but everything was ok. ended with a hug.


1 week ago i asked to play basketball. here was the stipulation. We each bet on something. She said if she won, i buy her lunch. If i won (of course i'll win, i'm the man) i get a kiss. The stipulations were that i could not jump at all.
I won, she was pretty excited, and we kissed. Score. Objective Completed.

I really wished i stopped there but i really messed things up from here. I started going AFC. I felt those needy desparations that i once had, a bit of jealousy, some fear, and unforunately i realized it too late and i lost. Only thing i have right now is a painful experience (which i hope i can fking learn from). I know my mistakes from this point on, but if anyone wants to comment (i can take negative comments, i'm well aware of what i did, just go out and say it), DO IT.

3 days later after we went to this cool park, at the end of the day, i told her i really liked her and wondered if she felt the same way. (Why the fk did i do this i have no idea). She didn't say anything, but instead she hugged me and we kissed. I was pretty damn happy i must say.

A few days later she gives me a talk saying she doesn't want a relationship and blah blah whatever. It was probably a nicer way of rejection. She askes me a bunch of questions, which i stupidly answered, probably because i was desparate. (i'm no longer a mystery from this point on).

She is so ****y now and full of ****, esp with the flirting with other guys in front of me to spite me. Right now i have this feeling of "i hate all woman".

God damn. I don't need materials to make me happy.

This is just me expressing my experience, my contribution to the ss community if anyone is interested.

Willing to answer questions or go into detail if necessary.
 

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Oh i'm also wondering if there a specific format to FR's or should i change the title, and not all FR's need to end successfully correct?
 

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Greetings Precursor:
Haha both of your dates seemed like a lot of fun! almost brought a tear to my eye :)

Of course not all FR's will end with success write them here and people can give you advice so you learn from your mistakes.

Usually if you are dating more than one girl you won't feel needy and jealous like you did with this girl and remember do not ask her to be your girlfriend until she says something about it! Only then you can say something along the lines "ok but lets take it slow"
 

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A few days later she gives me a talk saying she doesn't want a relationship and blah blah whatever. It was probably a nicer way of rejection. She askes me a bunch of questions, which i stupidly answered, probably because i was desparate. (i'm no longer a mystery from this point on).
You should have told her you didn't want one either, and you just want to have fun.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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