"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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FR at School: What did I do wrong here?

ElStud

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This basically identical to the FR I posted in the High School Forum but no one was replying there. This FR will also not contain the first approach because I'm not really concerned with that one. The thing I'm most concerned with is the first one where something weird happened, she acted all interested, then turned her back to me.

So I was at lunch and I approached this one girl.
Me: Hey! So I know you’re excited for the football game tonight!
Girl: Yeah, I am.
Me: What I can’t hear you speak up.
Girl: Oh I said yeah I am.
Me: So let’s say theoretically you see me at the football game, I want you to say “Hey Mike!” to me.
Girl: I’ll definitely do that!
Me: So you will?
Girl: Yeah! Let’s pinky square on it!
[She puts her pinky out]
Me: What’s pinky squaring?
[I put my pinky and cross it with hers]
Girl: Cool.
Me: Yeah, I do band.
Girl: Really? What do you play?
Me: Saxophone. Yeah, I might say something to you if I see you but I might be too busy.
Girl: Cool.
Me: Well what classes do you have though?
[And she starts ignoring me despite being all interested before, while I talk]
Me: Well, I’ll see you at the game.
Girl: Definitely!
Game is tonight so some advice before then would be good. Whether she REALLY does it or not will really show whether she was just interested or playing.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Magma

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Hmmm. My initial impression is that the problem occurred when you transitioned from "pinky swearing" (I won't even get into that, but decent job of making fun of it) to saying "I do band." You may have wanted to try and eject after the pinky thing with a false time constraint and a bit more kino.

Example: "Hey, I gotta run (as you touch her arm or shoulder). Give me a shout at the game, alright?" (keeping in mind good, solid eye contact and a delivery with confidence)

When you just blurt out, "I do band," what that tells me is that you're trying to qualify yourself to her. We don't need to be doing that. That right there MAY have turned her off. I don't know, I wasn't there. Good luck sir.
 

ToughLove

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dont ask questions such as "whats pinky swearing?" it makes u look stupid

also why dont u get to know her A LITTLE at least before assumping rapport

name, age, where shes from, if shes single, how old she is
 
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