"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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FR:All about Conveying Personality

Distant Light

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I don't usually post field reports unless I've been learning about something and happen to make my own realizations.

Convey Personality
What this game really comes down to is conveying your personality. (The words don't matter much) I don't want to go into details because I've done so on another forum...but basically I came to the realization that it all comes down to the traits that you're conveying, and that is what got the girl. (I then realized how a guru claimed he opens with "Who are you?" I now know its possible)

The Girl
Ok so there is this hb8 cute, innocent, good girl, virgin. (I personally hate virgins but hey good practice) Since I've met her I've been constantly testing out new things and try different stuff. I got a sense of how BT can be up one day and down the next. At that time I tend to do a lot of roleplaying with her, nicknames, and a bit of push/pull. She was into me already. One day I realized this girl was being Ice Cold, I mean one word responses and it was pissing me off that day. (I've come to understand what happened)

About Conveying Personality
An then I stumbled upon "Conveying your personality" which is the most important thing in pickup. If you look at any structure they tend to always have stuff you do to convey Dominance and High value. High value is what gets you laid. Being high value is what causes "Attraction"

For the past Three days I've been testing out just conveying my personality and nothing else. An what I realized blew me away because it really felt much simplier.

The Story
I sat down telling stories to a friend. (The girl was right beside me) Not once did this girl even get up and leave, she wasn't even bored. She just sat there watching me convey my personality, because what a girl really wants is just for you to show your "Authentic personality" and then she'll throw some sh!t tests to see if that is your "Authentic Personality"

I'm still pumping BT but just not as much as I'm used to doing, I'm more chill. This girl is literally just standing there just wanting to see what I'm about...

...but the fun doesn't end here, remember I said she was a VIRGIN/GOOD GIRL/INNOCENT. Well as I always said "Every girl will take a load to the face" and as Tim says "Every girl wants to be bent over" I don't care what kind of girl it is she is constantly thinking about getting railed.

First Big Sh!t Test
I test her out by throwing Sexual Innuendo here and there and seeing how far I can go with it. I then said something about her giving head and I think she gave me a "**** Test" by punching me in the arm saying "That was very rude"

Good Girls Sexual Beasts too
This chick tried to play like what I said was very offensive but deep down she knows she wants to do all those things. So for a whole day this girl tried to play as if she was pissed off...but I was completely unaffected and didn't care, I was just doing my own thing and talking to other girls. Next day she sees me and says "I'm still mad" very unreactive I say "ok" and I start walking away "I'm just playing come give me a hug" I walk as if I'm about to and I quickly say "Nope you haven't earned it."

She now realizes that I'm congruent with being sexual and all that good stuff. So I constantly keep telling her randomly...
"Whats for dinner"
"We can't do xxx now we have to wait until we get home."
"Is that your bf(Some random guy) I hope he isn't fuvking you on our special couch."

My favorite had to be "What are we going to play tonight? Peter pan? Free willy? Cops?" an she said "The black ninja" for some reason I was die laughing and basically turned it into a future adventure projection. She even sometimes tease me saying "I only lasted for 10 seconds" or "I can't handle her"

I've attempted maybe 4 or 5 times to put her hand on my dik but she always hesistated. I really think its because of the crowd and ASD. (She's virgin/good girl) Because the last time I've tried it, I was kind of pumping BT and then I tried to put her hand on my dik and her hand was just inches away.

I've also held her hand looking at it saying she has the nice "Stroke hand" and told her to stroke my arm which she did.

Where are some Conveying Personality?
- When I talk to my friends and ignore her for a bit, she sees my personality without me directly talking to her. Depending on what it is I'm talking about I'm convey something.

- High Value: I'm always doing what I want to do, and when I want to do. I do a lot of social proof by talking to friends and girls around me and she sees it.

- Dominance: Strong eye contact, strong frame, Vocal projection, Sexual inneundo, taking up space, leading her, touching her, strong frame

- Unpredictable: I'm just random with the stuff I do

- Authentic: I'm completly unaffected with what that girl can offer me. I only offer value, I'm "Authentic", I'm completly comfortable.

I can go on and on but I won't.

Her Sh!t tests (These aren't in order)
1. She says its hot and I say "So take off your cloth then" and I open up her jacket and notice a lot of cleavage. A friend of mine comments and she basically covers up saying "I can't" see. I basically just do alittle callback humor saying "Yea ok I'll wait until we get home"

2. She puts her gum down my shirt so I take it and put it right between her breast. An then she first says "I'm not going to take it out", "I'm not going down there" and some other thing. I just ignore it and say "Fine let me see where it dropped" I basically open up her jacket a bit and look down her breast looking for it. She then shakes it out.

3. While getting something from her my hand accidentally almost touched her breast and she goes "Wow you were a little to close to these" I just ignore it.

4. Her listening to me and my friends talk about what we'd do sexually. Just before she leaves she says "You're nasty" my friends were kind of messing me up because my friends were saying "Pusvy" looks nasty! The stuff they were saying was making sex seem nasty. The stuff I was saying was to really give her an idea of what I'd be like in bed without braging about it or trying to impress. During the conversation it surely wasn't showing that I was impressing because I had like 3 guys telling me everything I do is nasty.

There are a few others that came and gone pretty quickly.

The Results
I realized what "Plowing" is really about and why the words of an opener doesn't mean sh!t.

I come to realize that the words in the whole interaction doesn't even mean much. Canned material don't work because there some words that are known to be great, its because when you fully become congruent you convey the personality of the person who came up with it. If you go in without any routines and just convey your personality you'll get the same response

The only thing you should be watching out for is not qualifying, supplicating, impressing, not triggering ASD, etc.

The structure of Pickup is really just a guideline to smoothly pickup and convey your personality properly.

When your considered high value by a girl touch makes them very emotional. The girl I've been testing most of this on, while talking to friends she was secretly rubbing up on me.

Everying about the female mind is true. The whole buying temperature theory, sh!t tests, women liking sex, etc.

I'm sick now so will be out of action for awhile but hopefully I can continue trying out other things. This so called good girl I know I could lay.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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fantastic! I like FRs that give you something to think about and hopefully help you down the track. But, this seems to be more of an ongoing rapport report rather than an actual field report

Update as things progress! ;)
 

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Any FR is useless UNLESS you get laid (at least).

And I think you were quite a bit too ****y.

Personally, I found that girls who are virgins tend to fall for this and act this way, BUT girls who were already used before would find it really rude and just flake if you kept going with so much aggression.

They just don't know what they are dealing with.
 

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Babnik said:
Any FR is useless UNLESS you get laid (at least).

OK, a girl could be flirting, giving you tests, whatever. If you don't get none - then its worthless.

Wrong you Russian troll. Every experience with a woman is a learning experience. Whether you get laid, Get flaked on, get to third base it is all a learning experience to becoming a DJ.

Personally, I feel you learn more through the girls that flake on you than the girls you fvck. Let me give you an example


I got a BJ from a girl two weeks ago that had a very high interest level in me. It was like taking candy from a baby. Do you want to know what I learned- That I could blow my load in her mouth.

Not if she pulled that ASD Bs on me and all that other crap I could have probably learned something.

BTW Babnik did you lose your virginity yet?
 

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lookyoung said:
Wrong you Russian troll. Every experience with a woman is a learning experience. Whether you get laid, Get flaked on, get to third base it is all a learning experience to becoming a DJ.

Personally, I feel you learn more through the girls that flake on you than the girls you fvck. Let me give you an example


I got a BJ from a girl two weeks ago that had a very high interest level in me. It was like taking candy from a baby. Do you want to know what I learned- That I could blow my load in her mouth.

Not if she pulled that ASD Bs on me and all that other crap I could have probably learned something.

BTW Babnik did you lose your virginity yet?
Wrong, boy. No. You didn't get anything. You stayed in this forum like the rest of you do. I'm here now (again...) because I can't do squat for 2 weeks, can't get out of my house.

BTW, did you learn how to turn off your PC and go out yet?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Babnik said:
Any FR is useless UNLESS you get laid (at least).

And I think you were quite a bit too ****y.

Personally, I found that girls who are virgins tend to fall for this and act this way, BUT girls who were already used before would find it really rude and just flake if you kept going with so much aggression.

They just don't know what they are dealing with.
It doesn't matter if its a Field report or a Lay report if you learnt something new I think it should be shared to everyone. I'm 100% sure I can lay this girl, its just bad logistics that I have. That is why I'm trying out many different things and actually getting better and better. But some Lay reports just come off bragging unless you had a very challenging set that lead to a lay.

Like the other poster said every set is a learning experience. That is why I tend to always open set after set, because I'm not focusing on getting laid I'm focusing on getting the skill.

The reason why I get away with the stuff I say is because I'm dominate and have a strong frame. EVERY girl I do sexual Innuendo to, even if I just met her I'd say it just to see how she reacts.

For example a girl I know were talking about some crap and for some reason I tell her "Keep playing I'm going to end up Fuking you" (What she thought I was going to say in the context of what we were talking about, was that I beat her up) An she try to chase it to see if I'd react like if I'm done and don't know what I just said. But of course I cut the thread instantly and now she is thinking about what I just said.

An also I calibrate it, there are times I've said it and get a girl kind of annoyed.

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Another Field Report (This happened before I tried all this stuff on the other girl. I think this approach lead me to convey my personality properly)
The first day I started trying out conveying my personality, I got blown out. It was a hb9, someone pointed her out to me and I just approached. (She reminds me of a famous stripper I know)

Distant: Hey your kind of cute I had to come meet you (With direct openers I realize you don't get that look and sometimes if you do direct properly you get sh!t loads of "Sh!t Tests")
Hb9: Thank you, but I'm sorry you're too young
Distant: What!? (Great first day trying this and I react! but I kind of catch myself) I'm 45 years old don't you see the gray hair?
Hb9: haha...I admire your courage but blah blah (some crap)
Distant: What? admire my courage...(I reacted again, at this point I was thinking "She really thinks she is that hot!? I'm "Distant Light" this stuff don't happen to me")
Hb9: Goodbye

An she walks away, after that approach I sat there kind of shocked...
- I freak reacted
- I lost my frame
- Conveyed dominance at the start and thats what mainly triggered the series of Sh!t tests, but after the opener it went down hill
- She actually thinks she is hotter than me!! (It's an inner game thing...)
- I didn't plow

But I really learned a lot from that approach and it really helpped me a whole lot. If I ever see her again I'm surely going to open her agian.
 

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Babnik said:
Wrong, boy. No. You didn't get anything. You stayed in this forum like the rest of you do. I'm here now (again...) because I can't do squat for 2 weeks, can't get out of my house.

BTW, did you learn how to turn off your PC and go out yet?
LOL you talking to me. I didn't get anything??? Babnik I have fvcked more girls than you ever will.

BTW babnik where are your experiences with woman? You have started over 100 of the most idiotic troll like threads on sosuave and not one has anything to do with gaming girls. Where are your approach reports? Where are your date reports?
 
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