“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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FR: 2 approaches at school

ElStud

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So I made 2 approaches today, this is how they went.

Approach #1
I'm walking around and I approach this girl sitting alone.

Me: Hmm, tons of people around and you aren't talking to them. Let me guess you're the shy type?
Girl: I don't know.
Me: Yeah, I can see you as the type of girl who stays home during all the social events.

This happened somewhere in there...

Me: So what'd you do over the weekend?
Girl: Uh... I don't know.
Me: Well I'll tell you about mine. There was this crazy after band party this weekend. I remember once I was walking and I saw this one dude put his nuts in this other dudes face and the funniest thing is, right when that was happening, back of the dudes head hit my nuts, so he got double sacked.

At one point this happened...

Me: So what's your name?
Girl: [Couldn't understand her]
Me: What I can't here you, speak up!
Girl: [Couldn't understand her]
Me: Huh? Marle?
[And she stops talking]
Me: Alright, tell me one more time but this time louder!
Girl: [Couldn't understand her]
Me: What Marble?
Me: Well anyway, ask me my name.
Girl: What's your name?
Me: Mike.

And this happened somewhere...

Me: So I noticed you were wearing blue... but do they call those things?
Girl: Uh... sweatshirts.
Me: Yeah, well is blue your favorite color?
Me: Wait, don't answer that a girls favorite color can actually say a lot of bad things about her.

And the ending...

Me: So do you go to the football games?
Girl: No.
Me: Well, you should it's a good way to support the team.
That one sucked.

Approach #2
I'm sitting on the couch when this girl in this we call the senior lounge. Took me a while but eventually I talked to her. Don't remember the whole set, we talked for a long time. All I really remember is that she laughed a lot and showed a lot of interest. I also kinoed her a few times.

- I opened with "Wow, I've noticed you've been working on that for a long time, almost passionately". And we talk from there and eventually she says "It's for a special person" and I say "Ooh, your boyfriend!" and she's like "No, it's for a friend" and I say "Wow, they must be very special for you to put all that work into making that". Then she tells about how sewing is fun and she enjoys doing it.

- I tell her a story "Wow, you should've came to the after party! Haha, that was crazy!" skipping along past the boring parts of the story "I remember this one time where I was just sitting there and I start walking and I see this dude straight put his nuts in another dudes face." she kind of laughs there, moving along I said "But that's not all, right when that happened the back of the dudes head banged into my nuts, so dude got double sacked. Haha, I don't know even what you call it". She laughed somewhere in there and dude sitting across also laughed.

- Somewhere along the line when I say to her "I know your excited for the football game!" and she's like "Kind of". And I'm eventually like "Kind of? What kind of enthusiasm is that!?" then she's like "I don't know, I'd just rather be working on Friday". And we start talking about her job.

- Somewhere in there I start talking about "Are flute and piccolo notes always that high?" and she says "Yeah" and I start talking about how tenor sax notes are on a low register.

- She starts talking about how her mother wouldn't have a problem if she did drugs or not. She even told me this one story about how she asked her mother if she was allowed to smoke pot and her mother said yes. She also told me how she drinks with her mother all the time.
Pretty good approach here.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Me: So I noticed you were wearing blue... but do they call those things?
Girl: Uh... sweatshirts.

LMFAO. Can you say "treated"?!
 

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I'm not even gonna go into this.....

Boring. Really boring. Your approaches are as dumb as a sack of hammers. Learn to be more fun.
 

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Do you even have any friends or you just wonder around aproaching girls at random?

get a life man srsly
 

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WesCottII said:
I'm not even gonna go into this.....

Boring. Really boring. Your approaches are as dumb as a sack of hammers. Learn to be more fun.
Boring which is why girl 2 was laughing, showing interest and not rejecting kino. You know she could've easily said "Yeah" and "Okay" with everything, she didn't have to tell me her life experiences and she didn't have to laugh. Again, your logic is "No number no interest" which is stupid.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Still no number. Still no day2. Still a fail.

Define what "alot of interest" is in your book, I bet it really differs to mine.
 

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WesCottII said:
Still no number. Still no day2. Still a fail.

Define what "alot of interest" is in your book, I bet it really differs to mine.
Thus proving my point, your way of thinking is "No number no interest" which is wrong. What's a lot of interest? Showing interest in my stories, laughing at what I say, telling me about herself and the like. Like I said she could've easily ignored me or just have said "Yeah" or "Okay" to everything. She didn't have to tell me about her job or her parents.
 

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ElStud said:
Thus proving my point, your way of thinking is "No number no interest" which is wrong. What's a lot of interest? Showing interest in my stories, laughing at what I say, telling me about herself and the like. Like I said she could've easily ignored me or just have said "Yeah" or "Okay" to everything. She didn't have to tell me about her job or her parents.

Nope....your comprehension needs work. I didn't say "no number no interest", and I'll be the judge of whats "wrong" thanks, not some life failiure.

See, interest, to a guy like me, who gets women, is them touching you...hinting heavily they want to be alone with you....asking questions about you.....hinting that you should have the number.
 

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WHY do you not CLOSE.

I don't understand this!!!

Is your whole goal in life just to meet as many women as possible and then forget about them?

Another thing I notice is you take the whole statement over questions thing WAY to far. You're just bombarding them with statement after statement after statement. The girls seem to barely talk, it's just you talking, which is likely why you can't really continue the conversation cause you can't pick up on what they say, because they barely say anything!

If she was so interested in you, why do you not CLOSE.

I don't understand you man, so much willingness to put yourself out there, but you just hit a wall of nonstop approaches.

Also you say you don't like using canned routines, well the stuff you say really seems to be like something straight out of a book.

Me: Hmm, tons of people around and you aren't talking to them. Let me guess you're the shy type?
Girl: I don't know.
Me: Yeah, I can see you as the type of girl who stays home during all the social events.

You kidding me?

Stop with the bombardment of statements, let the girl talk a bit.


All your approaches are pretty much identical, walk in, statement, she answers/laughs whatever, put down another statement that has almost no relevance to the first statement, continue continue continue. It's almost like an interview without questions.
 

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Kev07 said:
WHY do you not CLOSE.

I don't understand this!!!

Is your whole goal in life just to meet as many women as possible and then forget about them?

Another thing I notice is you take the whole statement over questions thing WAY to far. You're just bombarding them with statement after statement after statement. The girls seem to barely talk, it's just you talking, which is likely why you can't really continue the conversation cause you can't pick up on what they say, because they barely say anything!

If she was so interested in you, why do you not CLOSE.

I don't understand you man, so much willingness to put yourself out there, but you just hit a wall of nonstop approaches.

Also you say you don't like using canned routines, well the stuff you say really seems to be like something straight out of a book.




You kidding me?

Stop with the bombardment of statements, let the girl talk a bit.


All your approaches are pretty much identical, walk in, statement, she answers/laughs whatever, put down another statement that has almost no relevance to the first statement, continue continue continue. It's almost like an interview without questions.
Thanks. Yeah, I admit I took the statements thing too far on the first approach, however the second one was different. The barely talk thing is true for number one, but on number two she actually talked a lot and the conversation was long. And nah, that line wasn't canned and even if it didn't work, it fit the situation because she was sitting alone. But no, it's not canned.
 

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Kev07 said:
Try to start your sentences without "so" or "wow"
And... what would I say? I'm missing the whole point where this is actually changing anything. I'll do it but I just don't see the change.
 

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ElStud said:
And... what would I say? I'm missing the whole point where this is actually changing anything. I'll do it but I just don't see the change.

Reread what you said, it's repetitive and robotic.

Ever read a story where the writer starts off every thing with "I"?

And also it gives off the impression that you're just trying tkeep the conversation going because everytime you start a new statement with "so" or "wow" it has almost nothing to do with what you were talking about.

Basically, it just goes back to what I was saying about making your conversation flow.
 

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Kev07 said:
Reread what you said, it's repetitive and robotic.

Ever read a story where the writer starts off every thing with "I"?

And also it gives off the impression that you're just trying tkeep the conversation going because everytime you start a new statement with "so" or "wow" it has almost nothing to do with what you were talking about.

Basically, it just goes back to what I was saying about making your conversation flow.
Well they do flow. First one didn't, but second one did for instance...

On the second girl I was like "So I know your excited for the football game" and she's like "Kind of". Moving on to a later part of the conversation she says "I'd just rather be working on Friday" and I'm like "Really, where do you work?" and it's all smooth transitioning.

Or also, she's talking about how she used to watch South Park when she was 5 and I'm like "Haha, you watched South Park when you were five? Your parents must've hated you" and she's like "Nah, my parents think I'm perfect". Then she goes and tells me about how her mom will approve of almost anything and tells me that she once asked her mom if she could smoke weed and her mom didn't have a problem with that. Then she tells about how she occassionally has a 'drink' with her mom.

But yeah, conversation was flowing.
 
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