Foreign women in a foreign country

[Lanceroni3]

:nervous:

Just wanted to start a thread about your experiences with foreign women. Right now, I'm living in a foreign country (Japan), and meeting new, fun girls to hang out with is especially challenging. I've been only slightly successful, but for the most part its been frustrating.


EVEN just making normal friends with people in general is frustrating, I think for several reasons:

1. The language barrier- I understand a good amount of Japanese, but not enough to be extremely ****y or funny. I can be creative, and cute, and a little weird (god I must sound weird speaking Japanese, making all kinds of mistakes ). What do you guys suggest to do when you cant using verbal communication at 100% strength, but still want to approach a girl?

2. The culture differences- This is especially challenging. I stand OUT. This is both good and bad. It's good because I get noticed, I'm special...not your everyday-run-of-the-mill person, I catch lot's of eye contact (and thus alot of smiles, or random hellos). It's bad because I'm prejudged before I even start talking to the girl. AND, its kind of a bad thing to 'stick out' in society, and she sure as hell will stick out when talking with some foreigner. The even have a saying in Japanese ''The nail that sticks up gets hammered down''.

3. The way to date- I tried kiss-closing this girl after a a date one time. Both of us had a great time, tons of kino, good eye contact, lots of laughing etc. So I told myself, ''ok, im going in!'' Nope, complete rejection. Later I found out that nobody EVER kisses on dates, and thats mostly reserved for serious LTRs. :nervous:

So I guess, I would like to hear your guys experiences with foreign women, or tips while dating in a foreign country. I'm not talking about foreign women who have been raised in America or another ''western'' style country, because really they are 100% American (or whatever)

Thanks!

 

[RokyRoc]

1. ****y and funny is not all in your mouth. You gotta maximize your body language especially in a foreign country, cuz the only way you are gonna communicate on a more intimate level. And so what if you mess up, speak with confidence, maybe you'll start a trend.

2. Stand out, use it to your advantage. The more she assumes about you the better cuz you can break all these stupid stereotypes and get her real hot for ya.

3. Well Nobody THERE ever kisses on first dates but YOU DO!!!!!!! Why should their society affect you?

At the same time keep an eye out for the cultural stuff cuz sometimes that can really be serious.

And if you think there is not one freaky girl in Japan.... man....

 

[bachelor]

Where in Japan are you?

I'm in Seoul, Korea. I found it at first to be challenging approaching women here, but as time has progressed I have been doing well. I think the key has been figuring out my logistics.

I know some Korean enough to qualify them and have met some good PUA's here... You should check out the Japan Lair. There are some really good guys on the site pickupasia.com who explain the Asian game in more detail....

Learning and respecting the culture is very important. It shows them that you are caring enough to learn about it and also shows prizability. Learning the language is very helpful. I haven't sarged in Japan, but are there alot of English speakers there? In Seoul, there's areas where a majority of the girls do speak English.

I have a Korean regular now and have hooked up with others. My experiences have been great and I'll tell you this I'm definitely into Korean girls haha

 

[SharinganUser]

I hooked up a lot in China. Sichuan girls are amazing. Have you tried being white? That worked for me.

Seriously though, you have to be more confident, it sounds like these "problems" are more in your head than actually happening.

1) there is NO such thing as a language barrier when it comes to meeting women. If they are attracted to you, they will be able to communicate with you. Trust me I've been with women that don't speak any english.

2) Doesn't apply to you if you are not asian. You are gaijin and therefore allowed to make more "mistakes."

3) That was just one date with one girl. I mean have you seen Tokyo girls??? Yaaaaaaatttttttaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!

 

[DjMe]

Whats up man,

Im currently on the other side of the pacific doing a semester in Chile SA. ShariganUser has some great advise for you about using your whiteness (were assuming) to your advantage. Its amazing to say, but in other places in the world being white is exotic. Here in chile everybody is short, black-haired and dark skinned. Me and my six foot tall blond haired self sticks out everywhere I go, but a lot of girls dig it, the whole "exotic" factor.

I do have problems making any relationship last longer than a week or two though, but I have lately realized that it is really the result of my own insecurities and I have the same problem back home anyways.

Funny note on culture and language: In chile almost every single word or phrase has two significances, one literal and one sexual. It took me a bit of time to figure this out because my spanish was **** when I first came here, but now I just ask girls to explain what theyre saying and laugh and kino with them while they do it.

I cant imagine being in Japan though. Ive met a few kids from there over here and they are quite different (very reserved, usually more serious). However, thats a generalization and Ive met exceptions. Whatever though, just make sure you take advantage of your time in japan to figure out **** in your life and grow as a person. **** who you were and become who you are.

Also, half the **** on these sites are designed for western girls. Latin girls dont follow the same rules (for example, they expect to be called within a day after giving your number). Find out what works for japanese chicks

 

[Leporello]

In Argentina, on the other hand, things were much more difficult. Everyone had a too-cool-for-school attitude and coud be pretty withering if your game wasn't top-notch. Being white there is pretty much the norm, so it didn't help me.

I'm about to head to Vietnam. Things are probably a touch diffeent over there.

 

[strey]

In Argentina, on the other hand, things were much more difficult. Everyone had a too-cool-for-school attitude and coud be pretty withering if your game wasn't top-notch. Being white there is pretty much the norm, so it didn't help me.

man, Argentine girls are straight up *****es. go to Brazil to have better success.

here is a good quote from an Italian friend of mine talking about the differences between Europeans and Argentine/Europeans:

"they have half the money with twice the attitude"

its true, Argentines are euro decent, but absolutely snobby

 

[Leporello]

man, Argentine girls are straight up *****es. go to Brazil to have better success.

here is a good quote from an Italian friend of mine talking about the differences between Europeans and Argentine/Europeans:

"they have half the money with twice the attitude"

its true, Argentines are euro decent, but absolutely snobby

Yeah no kidding.

I think in general going to a foreign country gives you two possible advantages:

1. Money. The ability to take a girl out to a nice dinner, get her some decent gifts etc. won't be enough on its own to win over a decent girl, but it can make the difference.

2. Exoticism. As mentioned, being white can help. In general the more difficult and expensive it is to maintain a complexion the more attractive people think it is. In most parts of the world (and even in the West until recently) a white complexion bespoke wealth and authority. Obviously there are exceptions.

 

[bachelor]

I Am Not White... I Am Latino And I Am Pulling Asian Girls. Do Not Let Anyone Tell You That Being A Certain Race Helps....

When It Comes Down To It, All That Matters Is The Way You Can Run Your Game.

My Friend Who Is Black Runs Str8 Pick Up Game In Japan And Pulls Many Girls.

I Am Hispanic And I Run Game Well In Korea.

Being White, Does Not Put U At An Advantage.

 

[seasonedplayer]

man, Argentine girls are straight up *****es. go to Brazil to have better success.

here is a good quote from an Italian friend of mine talking about the differences between Europeans and Argentine/Europeans:

"they have half the money with twice the attitude"

its true, Argentines are euro decent, but absolutely snobby

I have spent 6 weeks in Argentina and they are the toughest women in the world - AND I was there during the economic crisis

If want foreign women, go to Asia - they are the easiest for a white man - Singapore, China, Thailand

 

[SharinganUser]

Hate to say it, Bachelor, but in some countries race does factor in. Fortunately, Japan and I assume South Korea too, are two of the more liberal countries. As much as I loved China, the black guys there had to have top notch game to meet girls.

But I agree with you, if you have skills and confidence, then it won't really matter what your skin colour is. Heck I've met a few Japanese guys that were hooking up with Chinese girls, considering what how the Chinese feel about WW2 and the Japanese, this is pretty damn impressive.

OP: The thing about Japan is that it is going through a change right now in terms of dating. More and more couples are getting divorced or going to couples therapy. I think that relationships in Japan are more difficult to maintain than they are in NA. One reason being, the lack of time most women have now-a-days, it's concievable that a woman will only see her mate once or twice a month instead of per week. The other reason being the initial reserveness and shyness that all Japanese people seem to have. Another might be that a lot of Japanese, although they love foreigners and are willing to travel, most Japanese tend to want to settle in Japan.

I don't know what you are looking for with a Japanese girl. If you are looking to date a foreign girl, then there are going to be some obstacles. BUT if you just want to hook up, then that my friend is solved simply by going to the bookstore, bars, or just cold approach anywhere, because chances are you'll meet a girl that wants to brag to her friends about bangin' a gaijin.

Honestly, one of the things my friend in Japan does, is that he goes to the ESL departments at any university.

 

[betterthandead]

Asian girls love AFC White guys.

 

[bachelor]

Hate to say it, Bachelor, but in some countries race does factor in. Fortunately, Japan and I assume South Korea too, are two of the more liberal countries. As much as I loved China, the black guys there had to have top notch game to meet girls.

Korea is still pretty conservative but many are open to inter racial dating. I am sad to here in China it's harder to sarge if you are not white. Maybe Hong Kong will be different? I'm planning a trip to Taiwan next month hopefully the sarging there will be good!

When I first came here, I beat myself up because it was challenging to sarge. It wasn't my race as the factor it was merely me not looking at the outer picture. What girls would be into me? Well, Spanish Majors of course. Lately, I have found a clearer picture of the girls I am attracting. They travel, speak pretty decent English, outgoing, and have a broad outlook on life.

Force framing has helped me alot. For example, I sarged a girl on the subway last night and she has traveled all over Asia. Jin-He you are very outgoing because you like to travel. You seem like a very adventurous person. I repeated this with the sarge and she was nodding her head like yes... It's crazy how many signals you can send by just body language haha...

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

My new plate is Japanese and so damn petite.. and she is great in the sack! My first Asian girl.. I like.

 

[Lanceroni3]

Thanks for the replies guys. I was gone all weekend, so I couldnt reply until just now.

Met a fantastic girl while taking a dancing seminar here over the weekend. Tons of kino right away, eye contact, speaks great English. If she didnt live so far away, I think I'd pursue this one further.

AND thats my problem I realized. I live out in the MIDDLE OF NOWHERE, haha. I'm in Iwate prefecture (which is like the Iowa of the US), approaching girls out here is near impossible. Not to mention there are no girls my age anyway. The only girls worthwhile have been ones NOT in my small ass town...I wish I could move but I'm stuck here for another 1-2 years.

So, I've decided to get off my ass and get a drivers license and buy a car. Since I live next to the ocean, I'm also going to get a jet ski license while I'm at it, I've always missed doing that the most since I've been here. We do have a nice beach, so this summer hopefully I can get my head straight and make some more approaches.


I just need to have more confidence in my Japanese and approach girls. While riding the train I noticed this HB8 checking me out in the reflection of the window...and I just was too nervous to say anything. :nervous:

I'll take that chance next time, I swear

Anyway, keep the replies coming, especially if you are in Asia, I'd like to hear more about how you guys are doing.

EDIT: Sharinanuser, I completely agree with what you said. Most women I meant have zero time (probably because I'm in a teacher's environment). These teachers literally have no free time on their hands, which automatically puts them in my no-fly zone. They have clubs to watch over after school, and most of their weekends are spent on business vacation, or socializing with teachers at ''official drinking parties''...which are not good grounds to approach them.

 

[bachelor]

Check out www.pickupasia.com

Those guys are based in Japan. They have come to Korea a few times and I have gotten to meet one of the guys. They helped clear up some things for me and have helped my game out here.