Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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For those guys who don't go for the number!!!

SuSHI

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This is evidance of how a good pick up can go bad when you don't follow it through...

I was hung up over the situation with a girl I recently met...through two horrible C0ckblocking situations, things didn't really work out the way i wanted...

I was leaving nightschool (the girl was in my class there as well, I know her from day school) and I was kinda feeling depressed because of how I failed to Dj this girl.

So i take the subway and I get off at my stop and this hot girl gets off as well, I was pretty sure she was going home from night school as well. So we both go to the same waiting area for streetcars...

I used the 3 sec rule (ya!) and she was more welcoming to my fluff talk then I expected. This just shows how some girls are more open to you trying to approach them then you would think...you just have to act.

I found out that like me, this girl draws, applied to the same things for university as well...damn. This was goooood.

Then it went bad...My streetcar came, and we said goodbye, I was going to go for the number...but my stupid mind told me "hey, your gonna see her around since you guys go to the same night school, what's the rush to get the number?"


Fvck!
FVCK!!!! ****!!!!

As soon as i get home...It hit me! What are the chances we would be getting out of the nightschool at the same time without her friends around? or if We will get on the same subway train?


FVCK!!!


I have another nightschool class tomorrow and I am pretty sure a friend of mine is in the same class as this girl...I will pay him a visit and "just happen" to bump into her...hope this doesn't seem desperate lol. If i get a chance to talk to her again..I'll go for the fvcking number this time!

SuSHI out.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Dee-Zy

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I used the 3 sec rule (ya!) and she was more welcoming to my fluff talk then I expected. This just shows how some girls are more open to you trying to approach them then you would think...you just have to act.
good job. I think you are being too hard on yourself. I agree that you thought wrong at first, you should of have gotten the number. Thinking that you have time and will see her again was true, but is not the best option.

chill dude. We are never good overnight, it takes mistakes to learn but sometimes, it takes mistakes to 'remember' and learn.

;)
 

00Kevin

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Going for the number is one thing, but learning how to chat a girl up and enjoy it is more important. Don't forget this is only just one girl so it doesn't matter.

When I chat girls up now I do it for the fun of it. If i don't get her number it doesn't bother me at all. She will think highly of you if you just make a quick connection with her and then compliment her.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Originally posted by 00Kevin
Going for the number is one thing, but learning how to chat a girl up and enjoy it is more important. Don't forget this is only just one girl so it doesn't matter.

When I chat girls up now I do it for the fun of it. If i don't get her number it doesn't bother me at all. She will think highly of you if you just make a quick connection with her and then compliment her.
I agree, #closes are great but they aren't the determining factor to whether you are successful or not. Approaching is the key, approaching and gaining rapport is even better. Depending on the rapport you gain merits whether or not a #close is even necessary.

There have been many times I've been invited to a party just after chatting with a woman I had just met. I don't know about everyone else but when a HB invites me to a party or out on a date, is it really necessary to #close if she is doing all of the planning (a definite sign of high IL)?

Too much emphasis is placed on #closing while it is just a step to ultimately getting together with the woman at a later time. If you're able to do that without #closing, all the better. Either way, you can never get to any subsequent meetings without approaching. That is definitely the place where DJs should focus. Closes come in many shapes but never without an approach.
 
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Sushi, I remember your current thread on this girl - I told you that you would see her again, and you did! You just weren't prerpared. Either you took to long to go for the kill or the train came to soon - which was it? Or you were you to chicken-shyt to go the next level? :D
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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