"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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for senior djs only please

djmac

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hey

Im's a self proclaimed master DJ. I've been reading SoSuave for about 2 yrs. now and I got good at picking up the girls. So one day I'm sitting at the bar and the song desperado comes along and I listen to it, and I'm thinking to myself damn this is my life. Ever since I came to this site I've been pickin up girls left and right. But I never stuck around for anyone to love me, and my friends have been askin why I don't stick with one.

Well from personal experience I'm normally the other guy( the one the girls go to when their BF/husband doesn't treat them like a girl needs to be treated). And I believe I've become a good dj. I've passed many, many tests from women that most chumps could never have passed, and I've got lots of cuties that want to get with me.

Anyhow back to the point at hand. like I said people know me for being the one night stand guy, and I still test myself constantly even though I've been on a few dates with the same girl. If you read my post before you will know that I passed impossible tests with this girl, such as she just broke up with my brother and we are just friends, and it would just be weird, but I got her in the sack that same night.

Ok so I've been playin it cool and gave her a ****load of challenges, and have had a ball with this girl, and she's been playin submissive girl real well. All is good in dj land.

I've been spacing myself also, making myself scarce. Only seeing her once about ever 2-3 days, with no calls or anything. She had a girls night out and I wanted no part of that, so I let her go solo. Then I get a call from her tonight, and when I answered the line was dead. So I called her back, no answer. Then my suspicions kicked in, so from yrs. of experience and studying I figured well I'm done, done and on to the next.

Well I figured I would call back and see if she had the balls to tell me that she fvcked up and slept with another guy. Well I worded it in a way that wans't accusing, and used a voice that was demanding. I said is there something that you want to tell me. She replied no. Then I said well you called and hung up, to wich she replied well my phone was in my purse and your on the top of the list and I accedentally hit the button.

Naturally I took this as a load of horse**** , so I asked her a few questions to test the sincerity of her response, such as did you have a good time tonight. she replied no. Then I asked what she was doing tomarrow. She replied well the girls want me to go out again. And I said well I was planning on coming over tomarow. And her voice got excited and she said she would break all other plans to be with me.

I guess the point of this story is, I seem to know the game. And it seems to be working, but I'm still human and, thinking that she would choose someone else over me still effected my emotions, even though I was willing to move on and forget about her. Does it still happen to you also?

sincerely master dj in little djs pants
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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BadsnakeUK

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That doesn't sound like senior DJ stuff to me. Your brother's ex? That night? I don't have a brother but if even a mate did that I'd kick the **** out of him. Also do you ever consider that she might be getting with you to get back at him?

Some other non-DJ stuff I notice in the OP:
1) You are worrying about her phoning you and hanging up. Why even worry? I've been about to call someone then been dragged away, phoned someone by accident then relaised and hung up etc. The fact you're worrying about such a little thing screams insecurity. Insecurity is not the mark of a DJ.
2) Immediately assuming she slept with another guy is also insecurity. Why is this your first thought?
3) If you're convinced she's slept with someone, why are you trying to get her to admit it etc? Just next her and move on - she's lost out. On the balance, she probably didn't unless she's a total wh0re, in which case why do you want her anyway?
4) The last point about it not being DJ to feel something for a girl is just crap. You will seriously f*ck yourself up thinking like this and it will eventually turn you into a complete pr1ck. I know, I went down that road for a while.

BTW, this reply isn't meant to be a flame - I'm just saying what I see.
 

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Well I'm not sure how your dj skills are but I can assure you that your spacing skills need improvement. Also, by the sound of your post, you've got a few notches under your belt, but I'm not sure if you should go so far as calling yourself a Master DJ quite yet.

I'm not so worried about you being too concerned with one girl; hell it happens. But if the ONLY hookups you get is off someone else's plate when they aren't looking you need hella improvement. Those are some of the gimmes.
 

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ok guess I left a few things out. I talked to my bro about it over a yr. ago he said he allready lost interest in her and it wouldn't bother him. Also I think I figured out the rest, the LTR game is new to me, I'm real secure on picking up chicks, but I guess I always ditched them before there was any real attachment.

Not saying there's real attachment yet, I'm just saying I have invested time in her, and I expect a good return on my investment.

and to answer the questions from badsnake.

1.normally when I'm with a chick cheating on her man, and she calls and hangs up, is when I tell her to call him, to let him know what's going on between her and I and she chickens out and hangs up.

2.read number 1

3.Was ready to move on, I just wanted to see if my presumptions were right, and if they were, to see if she had the balls to admit it. And I was way off base like I said -- I might be a dj but I'm still human.

4.It woulda been more of a respect thing than a love one. If she did something like that without informing me that would be disrespectful. That's one thing I demand is respect.

and badsnake I don't see your post as flame those seemed like legit questions, thanks for replying.

ciao
 

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OK - makes a little more sense now. I misunderstood the OP to mean your bro had just split up with her. SHould have thought better of you from the start.

For 1 & 2, I see your point, but just bear in mind there's a million and one other reasons for her to call and hang up - probably best not to jump the gun unless you get some other signs. If she's still doing the submissive part its likely you're still the centre of her world - when she's thinking of moving on/has other options she's less likely to take any crap

Again, for 3 I see your point - I've been tere but in the end I've learned its best not to know. And these days I never assume a woman would have the integrity to own up unless she was caught red-handed - it wouldn't be in her scheme of things.

4 I fully get

Cheers
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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djmac said:
ok guess I left a few things out. I talked to my bro about it over a yr. ago he said he allready lost interest in her and it wouldn't bother him. Also I think I figured out the rest, the LTR game is new to me, I'm real secure on picking up chicks, but I guess I always ditched them before there was any real attachment.

Not saying there's real attachment yet, I'm just saying I have invested time in her, and I expect a good return on my investment.

and to answer the questions from badsnake.

1.normally when I'm with a chick cheating on her man, and she calls and hangs up, is when I tell her to call him, to let him know what's going on between her and I and she chickens out and hangs up.

2.read number 1

3.Was ready to move on, I just wanted to see if my presumptions were right, and if they were, to see if she had the balls to admit it. And I was way off base like I said -- I might be a dj but I'm still human.

4.It woulda been more of a respect thing than a love one. If she did something like that without informing me that would be disrespectful. That's one thing I demand is respect.

and badsnake I don't see your post as flame those seemed like legit questions, thanks for replying.

ciao
1. What's the point of this? You sound like you just wanna inflate your ego here. If you are with a woman why they need to validate your ego by making her call her man and tell them about you?

And with this girl you are talking about now, why are you getting all insecure about her not answering or calling/hanging up? Are you exclusive with her? You sound like an insecure AFC with the way you handled her over the phone.
 

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TheBaconator said:
1. What's the point of this? You sound like you just wanna inflate your ego here. If you are with a woman why they need to validate your ego by making her call her man and tell them about you?

And with this girl you are talking about now, why are you getting all insecure about her not answering or calling/hanging up? Are you exclusive with her? You sound like an insecure AFC with the way you handled her over the phone.

did you read the title-- for senior djs only.. anyhow

I've had to many experiences to list them all here. If I had a girl tell me she wanted me, and only me, that's when I would want the proof, that's when I would have them call their bf.

and like I said before, those are the only experiences I've had with hangups. So naturally that's what I'm going to assume. and I shoulda used the word suspicious instead of jealous... I was suspicious of that kinda call and I wanted to see if my suspicions were correct, so I could move on to the next if necessary.
 

TheBaconator

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djmac said:
did you read the title-- for senior djs only.. anyhow

I've had to many experiences to list them all here. If I had a girl tell me she wanted me, and only me, that's when I would want the proof, that's when I would have them call their bf.

and like I said before, those are the only experiences I've had with hangups. So naturally that's what I'm going to assume. and I shoulda used the word suspicious instead of jealous... I was suspicious of that kinda call and I wanted to see if my suspicions were correct, so I could move on to the next if necessary.
Since you are a "self-proclaimed master DJ" why do you need people on here to tell you what you seem to already know? And why are you even stressing this one girl?

But hey, you are the self proclaimed master, so you have it all under control right? Enjoy your brothers leftovers.
 

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dear friend

please do tell why I should qualify myself to you?

anyhow this post has gone way off topic, so back to the original question.

for seniors only please.

I'm still human and, thinking that she would choose someone else over me still effected my emotions, even though I was willing to move on and forget about her. Does it still happen to you also?
 

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Before i say anything this post is intended to help not offend.

From the description of your situation id say your not a master DJ, infact an awful long way off.

Stop going for girls in messed up relationships, and dont go for girls with friends or relatives thats plain desperate dude.

Sex on one night stands is not only risky for your health, but the sex isnt even as good as in a relationship, and why u would want to be the bit on the side that the girl doesnt want to be seen with walking down the street in the daylight is beyond me.

Expand your social circle wether it be more friends, a part time job, a club,society or whatever.

Respect yourself, dont be willing to go for women that dont respect you.

Dont have feelings for a woman that does not have them for you.

If you do HONESTLY find it easy chatting up girls, do it with single ones.


What your asking at the end wont apply to any seasoned DJ period.

Anyway I hope you take the advice constructivly and im sure youl be alot happier this time next month if you follow it actively.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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schttrj

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well, to be honest with you, dude, I don't really think you are a DJ yet, maybe on your way. For me, DJ is a Don Juan, not a man*****. Don't be offended though. Sure, keep at it and you will be the ONE. But right now, my advice to you, focus on making them come for you, not shagging every other woman you come across!
 
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