"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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backbreaker

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I got a story to tell. 100% true. I odn't know the guy personally, but my fiancee knows his girlfriend quite well. or his ex girlfriend. guy was 24 years old, was a jockey, and a damn good one. one of hte best in the country, bull**** aside. made hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. had a nice crib, drove a benz and an escclade. guy had serious drinking issues. everyone knew it but the dude was so talanted, you know how that goes, everyone *****foots around with the guy.
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anyway, he has been kinda blackballed here in southern cali, he moves back to my home state to arknasas to get rides. does damn well is 4th in the standings down there, rode some good horses.

so;, the GF tells him that he needs to come home (to la) or she is going to leave him. his agent, knows that he is going to make a killing if he stays in the midwest. he just isn't going to get mounts if he goes back home.

anyway, he makes his decision, he's going to stay in the midwest. she can't take it anymore, breaks up with him. he goes on a drinking spree, found him this morning, in his truck at churchill downs, dead as a doornob. out of respect for the deceased, you can draw your own conclusions.

That, is what this site is for. So you don't become that guy. that guy that can't live without that girl. So you don't become that guy who thinks he keep living. so you don't think that any amount of money or looks are going to solve all your problems (his girl was pretty damn hot). No amount of money, no magic bodyfat digit is going to fix your problem with women. It might effect the amount of women that will find you attractive, but unless you address your real issues,

It's a damn shame.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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blueline

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Very good point Basically, the guy had a dependent personality.
 

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The hard part is to understand the fine differences between confidence from your woman and confidence from your self. This guy's confidence was obviously coming from his woman, and as soon as she rooted out, he's fvcked.

You might think you are a damn alpha, walking on the street with your pretty woman on your arm. Don't.
 

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Backbreaker I like your threads cause you give the other view from "The game"
I know when I first came here my main issue was finances among other things and guess what 3 years later it's still an issue.

I've met a few guys on this site, and believe it or not, they got issues from years of AFCness, so while these guys may be good looking, talk like Don juans they don't come of as one and even are labeled "creepy".

That's why right now women arent my main focus, my main focus is

1. Getting a car
2. Getting this money
3. Getting into shape
 

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oh my no mistake, it's better to have it ahn to not have it lol. I wouldn't say otherwise. Just note that these are not inner game issue fixers


this dude had serious dependancy issues. his agent and his GF left him like within 24 hours and dude just broke.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Good post. A person with a dependency personality before money will probably be even worse off with money. There have been many suicides and suicide attempts by wealthy people because of how someone else treats them.

A current event example of this issue is Pau Gasol of the lakers. Gasol played like sh1t the entire series and cost his team the season because he was going thru issues with his girlfriend. A lot of rich guys have very low self-esteem.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't try to get as rich as you can, we should all shoot for that. But don't think that money will magically solve all your character issues.
 

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yep, i have money, nice cars, best waredrobe i can have, doing better then pretty much any guy out here.

Not to discourage you guys with money goals, but the thread is spot on, money will not make you complete.
 

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cordoncordon said:
Michael Baze
yeah, was trying to walk a fine line because of the guy's issues, but yeah it's him.


hell 2 months ago he was riding the horse that came in 2nd in the Kentucky derby. people out there that would kill to have this dude's ability. killing himself over some *****, sad and pisses me off at the same time.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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This happens quite a bit with guys in the professional industries. Women hate being away from their man so they make demands and threaten to leave them if they don't come back with them. If the woman is hot she knows will find a new man so that is why they do that. It is the man who has to be a man and decide what he wants out of life and not let any woman dictate to him how he should live his life. No disrespect to the guy you knew, but he was a weak man who let it get to him and it is a shame he let a woman do that to him. Money won't cure your problems, but it will sure make it a hell of a lot easier to live.
 

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backbreaker said:
I got a story to tell. 100% true. I odn't know the guy personally, but my fiancee knows his girlfriend quite well. or his ex girlfriend. guy was 24 years old, was a jockey, and a damn good one. one of hte best in the country, bull**** aside. made hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. had a nice crib, drove a benz and an escclade. guy had serious drinking issues. everyone knew it but the dude was so talanted, you know how that goes, everyone *****foots around with the guy.
]
anyway, he has been kinda blackballed here in southern cali, he moves back to my home state to arknasas to get rides. does damn well is 4th in the standings down there, rode some good horses.

so;, the GF tells him that he needs to come home (to la) or she is going to leave him. his agent, knows that he is going to make a killing if he stays in the midwest. he just isn't going to get mounts if he goes back home.

anyway, he makes his decision, he's going to stay in the midwest. she can't take it anymore, breaks up with him. he goes on a drinking spree, found him this morning, in his truck at churchill downs, dead as a doornob. out of respect for the deceased, you can draw your own conclusions.

That, is what this site is for. So you don't become that guy. that guy that can't live without that girl. So you don't become that guy who thinks he keep living. so you don't think that any amount of money or looks are going to solve all your problems (his girl was pretty damn hot). No amount of money, no magic bodyfat digit is going to fix your problem with women. It might effect the amount of women that will find you attractive, but unless you address your real issues,

It's a damn shame.
I wasted ten of my minutes reading about some strange little guy who was doing drugs. It wasn't just booze. It was hardcore stuff. Go read articles. I You took my ten minutes from me! I want those ten minutes back! I could have been watching Webster reruns if I had wanted to see such a strange little man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IME0kUgJ9qM&feature=related

Before I know it we are going to be discussing Nascar on here.
 

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backbreaker said:
I got a story to tell. 100% true. I odn't know the guy personally, but my fiancee knows his girlfriend quite well. or his ex girlfriend. guy was 24 years old, was a jockey, and a damn good one. one of hte best in the country, bull**** aside. made hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. had a nice crib, drove a benz and an escclade. guy had serious drinking issues. everyone knew it but the dude was so talanted, you know how that goes, everyone *****foots around with the guy.
]
anyway, he has been kinda blackballed here in southern cali, he moves back to my home state to arknasas to get rides. does damn well is 4th in the standings down there, rode some good horses.

so;, the GF tells him that he needs to come home (to la) or she is going to leave him. his agent, knows that he is going to make a killing if he stays in the midwest. he just isn't going to get mounts if he goes back home.

anyway, he makes his decision, he's going to stay in the midwest. she can't take it anymore, breaks up with him. he goes on a drinking spree, found him this morning, in his truck at churchill downs, dead as a doornob. out of respect for the deceased, you can draw your own conclusions.

That, is what this site is for. So you don't become that guy. that guy that can't live without that girl. So you don't become that guy who thinks he keep living. so you don't think that any amount of money or looks are going to solve all your problems (his girl was pretty damn hot). No amount of money, no magic bodyfat digit is going to fix your problem with women. It might effect the amount of women that will find you attractive, but unless you address your real issues,

It's a damn shame.
I wasted ten of my minutes reading about some strange little guy who was doing drugs. It wasn't just booze. It was hardcore stuff. Go read articles. You took my ten minutes from me! I want those ten minutes back! I could have been watching Webster reruns if I had wanted to see such a strange little man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IME0kUgJ9qM&feature=related

Before I know it we are going to be discussing Nascar on here.
 

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BigJimbo said:
Before I know it we are going to be discussing Nascar on here.
I'm from Alabama, what you got against NASCAR! #3 Forever. RIP Dale.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I read about this. The jockey was a cokehead and was awaiting felony trial for possession. So he was stressed and probably OD'd. It said nothing about his dumb girlfriend. Why did you leave that part out?
 

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sorry to hear about this guy. but listen about money. you ONLY need money for the THINGS YOU WANT. ok. girl don't care about money.

if you have money. but can't handle a girl. she aint going to be around for long. unless she a golddigger.
 

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Money can't fix a person's personal problems. We've seen it a million times before with rock stars. That doesn't mean money is BAD, just that if you can't live a proper life with what you have NOW, you're NOT going to be able to live a proper life when you "make it".
 
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