Focus on one person

[jcap]

I've noticed lots of methods such as mystery method tries to entertain a crowd of people,
unless you are truely entertaining doing magic tricks or just hilariously funny, You pretty much look retarded in front of the 3-4 set of people,

Does anybody agree with this?

So would a better way to just, find a target,
and just focus and talk to her only , and ignore the rest of her friends standing around.

This way you won't look like an unfunny idiot, and the target will feel *SPECIAL* that you are focusing your attentions on her.

Any comments?

 

[Stackthestyles]

LOL, she has to feel special for a reason that she actually enjoys.

She may love the attention, but want to give you nothing because you are being so "easy". She may be annoyed by you, because she wants a dynamic group conversation.

Gunwitch method aims for what you are looking for though. Lonewolf's are women who are easily attainable. Sexy under/overtones can get a woman aroused if she is isolated right off the bat... it's how I do MOST of my cold approaches. The energy created when the two of you are ALONE, is more powerful than when you are talking only to her in a group.

Hinting, innuendo, and playful AMOGing are essential to "focus on her" in a group though.

Can you put into words what I am trying to get at? I can't

 

[JezDuffield]

The best way to have success with woman, is to converse with as many of them as possible, it is ok to be infatuated by the one special particular girl but still approach many other Hot Babes in the times between when you see this girl, because if she doesn't like you then you still have got several other options. :rock:

 

[MVPlaya]

I don't like to perform magic tricks to build rapport. Matter of fact, I hate doing any routine that involves props, but I do know that magic works for some people. What you're discussing is what if your magic trick fails, but if you have enough charisma, you can joke about it and say something like "story of my life" while you playfully shrug it off and the girls will laugh with you. One single error never crashes your set.

Nonetheless, this is a good post (not from SoSuave) on the issue:

Mystery is an accomplished illusionist and recomends you NOT perform illusions in field until AFTER the newbie mission. Knowing human nature, you're gonna do this anyway. A few rules are in order.

1. Never refer to illusions as 'tricks.' You're not tricking the girl or manipulating her.
2. Never teach a sleight or show how you do it. Stack into something else.
3. Perform ONE illusion in set, and ONE an isolation. NO MORE. And make sure you've established value before doing this in set. Disregard this rule and you become the dancing monkey.
4. Have a VALID reason for learning illusions OTHER than PUA. Do you have any neices or nephews? Perfect. Run the illusion, and right at the apex say 'Can you tell I have a nephew?'

-MV

 

[I love Hyori Lee]

I've noticed lots of methods such as mystery method tries to entertain a crowd of people,
unless you are truely entertaining doing magic tricks or just hilariously funny, You pretty much look retarded in front of the 3-4 set of people,

Does anybody agree with this?

So would a better way to just, find a target,
and just focus and talk to her only , and ignore the rest of her friends standing around.

This way you won't look like an unfunny idiot, and the target will feel *SPECIAL* that you are focusing your attentions on her.

Any comments?

Just go with what works for you. Some guys are just better at talking to groups of women, and some guys are better working on one-on-one. Everyone has a different style. No one is wrong.

 

[Stackthestyles]

He was asking about if your in a group... key, he is in a group setting.

He DOESN'T want to do magic tricks(they are tricks, tricks of the mind)The other notes are cool though, props to MM for the reference to family.

His question, from my point of view is this;

If I approach a group, should I focus only on my target and ignore her friends?

 

[jcap]

stackthestyles,
Yes gunwitch is nice, I get what you mean, but the part where you said I'm being so easy, I'm just talking to her not being easy but I'm only talking to her instead of entertaining her friends. (doesn't seem to be working for me)

I think girls are already entertained by the fact they are watching you talk to the target instead of entertaining the whole group.
Of course theres another advanced level which takes it to the gets higher value from the whole group (mystery)

I've been approaching groups, but I believe they think I'm sort of an entertainment value, which is not the right perception I want.
like what MVPLaya quoted "the dancing monkey"

mysterymethods is obviously a higher level of approaching , thats for sure, that can get the 10s,
I'm just looking for the normal 7,8 chicks

 

[jcap]

If I approach a group, should I focus only on my target and ignore her friends?

100% you definately have my point
thats exactly what I'm trying to discuss.

 

[JezDuffield]

If you are to approach a group of four or six girls be friendly to all of them that is the best way to go about it.

 

[Stackthestyles]

If you are to approach a group of four or six girls be friendly to all of them that is the best way to go about it.

True,

but...

How do you get your target?

 

[MVPlaya]

I think the post I quoted addresses that. Do 1 for the group after building rapport, then 1 in isolation. Do not do a target-only routine in group.