"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

Read more...

Flustered And Fed Up, But I Gotta Keep Moving!

Alex DeLarge

Master Don Juan
Joined
May 26, 2011
Messages
845
Reaction score
25
Hey guys, just going off on a rant here.. I'm starting to get really sick of the night scene in my town. I have no problem meeting a girl and number closing her, most of the time I will even hook up with her after.. For some reason though, things never go anywhere past this.

The girls that I game and hook up with show an incredible amount of interest but 2 week to a month later, it's all gone and they don't even bother contacting me anymore. I'm not a needy person, I'm not obsessively texting/calling them, or any of this sh1t.. Maybe I just come off as too cold? I'm hella fun to be around though.

Sometimes I feel as though facebook is the main culprit here. I have a lot of friends that are girls and most of them I have hooked up with, but I was never friendzoned by any (being a friendzone friend is NOT being a REAL friend). Then I get the impression that maybe these girls think I'm a player or something? None of them have ever said anything to me about it, I've had one girl i was kickin it to say to me "Oh so you have a hot date tonight? ;)" I'm just growing more and more frustrated here. I'm seriously contemplating just taking a break from women all together while I finish my university studies. Anyone else in this same position and know a way past this 2 week to 1 month period?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

DonGorgon

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 28, 2007
Messages
4,679
Reaction score
102
Location
Studying the fact that all lies contain fragments
Alex DeLarge said:
Hey guys, just going off on a rant here.. I'm starting to get really sick of the night scene in my town. I have no problem meeting a girl and number closing her, most of the time I will even hook up with her after.. For some reason though, things never go anywhere past this.

The girls that I game and hook up with show an incredible amount of interest but 2 week to a month later, it's all gone and they don't even bother contacting me anymore. I'm not a needy person, I'm not obsessively texting/calling them, or any of this sh1t.. Maybe I just come off as too cold? I'm hella fun to be around though.

Sometimes I feel as though facebook is the main culprit here. I have a lot of friends that are girls and most of them I have hooked up with, but I was never friendzoned by any (being a friendzone friend is NOT being a REAL friend). Then I get the impression that maybe these girls think I'm a player or something? None of them have ever said anything to me about it, I've had one girl i was kickin it to say to me "Oh so you have a hot date tonight? ;)" I'm just growing more and more frustrated here. I'm seriously contemplating just taking a break from women all together while I finish my university studies. Anyone else in this same position and know a way past this 2 week to 1 month period?

see the bolded part.. that is the new trend for women. due to male over population they have a 2 to 4 week interaction limit time frame for dudes they meet then they move you out and fill your slot with another desperate dude.. every thing id very fake and superficial..

also males are now the ones trying to hold on to relationships and women they meet where as in the past that was what women did. The power shift is very evident.

WHAT CAN YOU DO?

only solution is volume have as many options a possible 5 new numbers a week if possible and try to find places to meet women that might yield a higher quality woman
 

5string

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 18, 2010
Messages
2,348
Reaction score
116
Location
Standing At The Crossroads
Why not take a break from women? I have. Good for the soul and will get your mind right.
 

DonGorgon

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 28, 2007
Messages
4,679
Reaction score
102
Location
Studying the fact that all lies contain fragments
5string said:
Why not take a break from women? I have. Good for the soul and will get your mind right.
ITS very very very hard for a straight man to "stake a break from women"...lol we are hard wired to want then and pursue them and life with out them can be very depressing actually..
 

cordoncordon

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 2, 2006
Messages
2,889
Reaction score
109
5string said:
Why not take a break from women? I have. Good for the soul and will get your mind right.
Wait how have you taken a break from your wife? I'm confused. :eek:
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

Read more...

5string

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 18, 2010
Messages
2,348
Reaction score
116
Location
Standing At The Crossroads
cordoncordon said:
Wait how have you taken a break from your wife? I'm confused. :eek:
Oh come on cordon. I was talking about in my single days. I'd just forget about them for a bit and just go do my thing. Then I'd get back into it when I wanted.
 

Die Hard

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 15, 2009
Messages
1,772
Reaction score
405
Drop Facebook, you have a phone, nothing more is needed beyond your phone. Facebook can only make things worse. I believe Slickster started a thread about the subject a while ago, look it up.

As for the chicks dropping after a while, it could have something to do with the following: If they like you, many girls expect the contact to "go somewhere" after a few dates. If they feel they're just as 'emotionally close' to you on the third date as they were on the first date, they might start to withdraw...

It's just a thought....don't know if it applies.
 
Top