"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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fluff to seduction

herbatnik

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how do you guys transition from fluff to seduction?
i was always directing the conversation towards subjects that *i thought* will get her emotional thinking/talking.

my wing has another view on this:
he fluffs, every now & then he throws in a "branch topic", that might be interesting to him. if she doesn't hook, he goes back to fluff. when she doesn't get any of his "branch hooks" (BH) it's time to next her because it's not going to go anywhere with her (either she's not interested or dumb or who cares what else).

in other words:

my method was to drift from subject to subject but the transitions weren't smooth so i didn't have that sense of connection going (breaking rapport a bit).

my wing is unbelievably smooth. instead of jumping from subject to subject to something interesting to him, he leaves BH but goes back to previous subject. this way SHE makes the transition & convo goes much smoother from her perspective. rapport & connection goes faster.

any views/comments on this?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I hope that answered your question :crackup:
 

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What you are talking about is what Mystery calls 'conversational threads'. Basicly, he tries to have 5 conversations open. He will move on to a new topic before closing the previous topic, and then at a critical moment wrap all the conversational threads together to make a strong point. This is pretty advanced stuff, and quite hard to do unless you run the same game on every girl, or have a large 'bag-o-routines to draw from.
 
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